“Members must maintain such high standards of accountability to safeguard the dignity and decorum of the House, and to maintain the public's trust in our Parliament” – CAN OUR MALAYSIAN MPs ADOPT SUCH HIGH STANDARDS OF CONDUCT??

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 10, 2009

Why such high standards for MPs' conduct? ST 6 Jun 2009

FOUR-LETTER words, unsubstantiated allegations, sexist remarks and even racist slurs - some might find it hard to imagine but the august halls of Singapore's Parliament have heard it all.

At different times throughout the country's history, parliamentarians have been known to indulge in some downright unparliamentary language and behaviour.

MPs in hot water

SEVERAL MPs have been taken to task by Parliament for their conduct in the House, either for what they did or said. Insight looks at four notable cases of MPs behaving badly and one of a minister's hair-raising faux pas.

The first MP to be censured
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But few, if any, have got away with it.

Some have been censured, some have apologised, while others have been suspended or fined, all in the name of maintaining a high standard of decorum in the House.
Last week, this strict code of conduct was demonstrated once again after MP Sin Boon Ann (Tampines GRC) read out an e-mail that criticised The Straits Times' coverage of the Aware saga, a criticism that he said he agreed with.

However, he also said the e-mail was from someone he did not know and he had not verified its contents either.

His lack of due diligence prompted the Leader of the House, Mr Mah Bow Tan, to issue a stern reminder to MPs that the privilege of parliamentary immunity - they cannot be sued for what they say in Parliament - must be balanced by high standards of accuracy.

Mr Sin himself was also made to apologise to the House.

Last week's incident was the first time in four years that an MP has been taken to task for his conduct in the House. (See story: MPs in hot water)
It comes at a time when the British Parliament - which Singapore's was modelled after - is embroiled in a scandal over MPs' perks.

The two combined mean a glaring spotlight is now trained on the behaviour of parliamentarians.

To be sure, conduct in Singapore's Parliament is more civil than in many other parliaments. Discourse is typically polite, heckling is mild on the rare occasions when it occurs, and there has never been shouting matches, fist-fights or furniture-tossing.

This emphasis on orderly conduct has led some to question if Singapore's House has become too bland.

How did we arrive at this parliamentary culture? Has it always been like this? And is it really necessary to impose such high standards on MPs?

The dos and don'ts

AT THE most basic level, Parliament derives some of its standards from the law.

The Parliament (Privileges, Immunities and Powers) Act spells out a list of 17 different offences MPs can be taken to task for. These include assaulting or insulting the Speaker or another MP, presenting any false, fabricated or falsified document with intent to deceive, and refusing to answer a relevant question.

The penalties for these include imprisonment, suspension or a fine of up to $50,000.

There is also the option for Parliament to temporarily suspend the MP's immunity from civil and criminal suits.

But rules only go so far.

Singapore's legislation is no more severe than in most other Commonwealth countries, points out constitutional law expert Kevin Tan.

'The rules themselves do not set the standard of behaviour or decorum,' he says. 'By and large, Parliament is a master of its own rules and can suspend a member's privileges.'

So far, however, it has never come to that. Singapore MPs have, on the whole, stayed within the limits.

In fact, only one person - the late opposition member J.B. Jeyaretnam - has ever been fined for his conduct in Parliament.

In the 1980s, he was referred to the House's Privileges Committee four times - once in 1982 and thrice in 1986.

The 1986 cases involved alleging executive interference in the judiciary and abuse of police powers, and failing to declare a pecuniary interest in a question he raised.

The committee fined him $1,000 on each count.

The trio of offences proved to have deeper repercussions for Parliament. In August that year, Parliament moved to introduce harsher penalties on errant MPs. It was also in the wake of this case that the possibility of suspending immunity was introduced.

To this day, the 1986 examples stand as the most serious transgressions in the House.

Most other cases were resolved with the MP involved apologising.

The cases though run the gamut from crude to amusing.

One case that many MPs interviewed recall happened just four years ago, when an expletive was uttered in Parliament.
'Shit', as an exclamation in the English language, made its way into the House, thanks to then Nominated MP Ong Soh Khim. She said the word during the 2005 Budget debate when she ran out of time. She apologised.
The same earthy entity, but this time enunciated in Hokkien, returned to Parliament two years later when MP Lee Bee Wah (Ang Mo Kio GRC) referred to it to make a point in her speech. Though some outside the House criticised her choice of vocabulary, she was not censured by Parliament.

These two bouts of verbal excess were preceded by, among others, a racist remark from former MP Choo Wee Khiang, a comment about women's hairdos from then Health Minister Lim Hng Kiang, and the ABCs of expletives from MP Ling How Doong in 1997.

Recalled former MP Wang Kai Yuen: 'He used ABC. A for asshole, B for bastard and C for talk cock.'

But clear transgressions aside, former MPs recall there generally being more banter in the House.

Heckling, though milder than in other countries, was once commonplace.

One of those who took part was former MP Chandra Das. His target was often opposition MP Chiam See Tong.
'It was harmless, we were just trying to disrupt each other's train of thought,' he tells Insight.

Mr Chiam often gave as good as he got. Mr Ling's ABCs, for instance, came in retaliation to Mr Chiam's heckling.
The practice is now rarely seen. MPs wait their turn patiently.
To voice approval, they no longer shout 'Hear hear' but thump on the chairs.
Dr Wang thinks the disappearance of heckling is simply a generational matter: 'I presume in the 1980s, more of the MPs were exposed to the British tradition. Over time, maybe we have evolved our own tradition so much so that we don't even do this anymore.'

Although he laments: 'If so, the proceedings in Parliament will be rather boring.'

Mr Das puts it down to the stricter time limits imposed on MPs' speeches these days. During Budget debates, for instance, an MP has 18 minutes to make his points - no matter how many ministries he wants to comment on. Those who head a government parliamentary committee get two minutes more.

There used to be a time when there was no limit to how long an MP could talk. This leeway ended, thanks to former Barisan Sosialis MP Lee Siew Choh.

In 1961, he delivered a speech that broke all records - and some backsides - when he argued against the proposed merger with Malaysia. He spoke for nearly 71/2 hours, starting at 11.20pm and finishing the next morning.

A time limit was introduced shortly after.

Too strict?

BUT though some former MPs reminisce fondly of the time when heckling was more commonplace and debates were livelier, all agree that the orderly Parliament in place now is a system that works for Singapore.

'You can focus on what is said rather than how it is said. It is now based more on the substance than on oratory skills,' says Wan Hussin Zoohri, a PAP MP from 1980 to 1991.

Mr Das shares the sentiment, saying one key feature of the local Parliament is that it is a 'working Parliament'.
'They don't have time to waste,' he says.

He stresses that it must always strive to maintain the high standards it has already set.

'When you set standards, there is bound to be abuse. When lapses occur, you correct them. If you set your standards low, you will get a bazaar.'

As for former MP Chew Heng Ching, he boils the matter down to MPs needing to set a good example: 'MPs are role models for many in society. Unlike in other countries, the standards expected of MPs here are very high.'

Says Mr Charles Chong (Pasir Ris- Punggol GRC): 'The fact that we do have immunity actually means that we have a higher responsibility that we do not abuse that privilege.'

On the matter of Mr Sin's transgression, he feels that where Mr Sin erred was in where he got his information from. If he had simply stated his own opinion, that would have been well within his right - even if the opinion was the same as that in the e-mail. However, because he cited an unverified source, he opened himself to criticism.

The last word on the matter of parliamentary privilege comes from Mr Mah, who is also the National Development Minister.

He is responsible for arranging government business in Parliament, and will advise the House on the action to take if a difficulty arises.

In an e-mail response to Insight, he lays out the rationale behind Singapore's strict system and explains why he made his statement in Parliament.

'Members must maintain such high standards of accountability to safeguard the dignity and decorum of the House, and to maintain the public's trust in our Parliament,' he says.

'If these standards are not maintained, we will be unfair to those who have been criticised by MPs under privilege and who are unable to clear their names. We will end up lowering the standing and authority that Parliament enjoys.'

Mr Mah also points out that the way Singapore remunerates its MPs helps ensure this high standard.

A scandal like the one in Britain will not occur here as MPs cannot ask to be reimbursed for their expenses.

'We have instead provided our MPs with a clean allowance of an appropriate amount, with no additional perks attached. This has enabled our MPs to serve their residents well, in their constituencies and in the House, and be properly compensated for such service,' he says.

jeremyau@sph.com.sg

PM must clear ALL DOUBTS on Altantuya Shaariibuu’s murder case...... (The beautiful Altantuya was 28 when she was shot in the face and bombed with C4 explosives to prevent identification by Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri and Cpl Sirul Azhar - two former bodyguards of Najib's).....ALL MALAYSIANS (AND THE WORLD) WANT TO KNOW THE MOTIVE OF THE KILLING...!!

WikiSabah

No peace for Altantuya's soul until after GE-13 despite dad's protest
More than 4 years have passed but the Malaysian courts are still dragging their feet on a RM100 million lawsuit filed by the parents of Altantuya Shaariibuu, a Mongolian national killed on Malaysian soil allegedly in connection with a corruption case involving Prime Minister Najib Razak and the purchase of 2 Scorpene submarines from French giant DCN.

Her fed-up father Setev Shaariibuu has sent yet another tracer to Malaysia's growingly notorious courts, where his latest letter is bound to suffer the same fate as previous reminders - suppression and total silence! This time, however, Setev and his wife Altantsetseg Sanjaa have taken the additional step of appealing to Malaysian lawmakers for justice.
“Honoured members of the Parliament of Malaysia, I would like you to pay attention to my request and to treat this issue from the stand worthy of intelligent human beings,” Setev said in his letter submitted via his counsel Karpal Singh, who is also the MP for Bukit Gelugor.

“There are vital matters pending such as to resolve the deceased’s funeral and pacify her spirit through charitable attention to the orphaned children."

Money already paid, why do you delay my daughter's last rites

In his letter, Shaariibuu also pointed that he has complied with all the terms set by the courts to pursue the case including putting up a security bond of RM60,000 but nothing has been done, although the Mongolian government - which footed the deposit - had sent representatives over to discuss how to resolve the case.

“The fact that your government does not make positive steps towards the issue raised by Mongolia may perhaps adversely impact the interest of hundreds of Mongolians who are studying and living in Malaysia,” he said.

“Despite the fact that the government of Mongolia proposed to discuss the issue by appointing and sending its representatives to Malaysia, it has been one year without any response."
The beautiful Altanuya was 28 when she was shot in the face and bombed with C4 explosives to prevent identification by Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri and Cpl Sirul Azhar - two former bodyguards of Najib's. They are now waiting on death row for their appeal to be heard. Her ashes are still in Malaysia, and her parents have fought hard to take them home but to no avail.

Among reasons given by the Malaysian government is that the two cops have appealed their death sentence. Their appeal is delayed because the trial judge, Mohd Zaki Yasin, who found them guilty has till date not written up his judgement. The judge's tardiness not only delays the cops in securing a hearing date from the Appeals courts, but also slows the lawsuit filed by Altantuya's parents. Government prosecutors say their case cannot be heard until the appeal is done with as it might 'prejudice' the cops' case.

"I can't see why the judge cannot finish writing his grounds. It has been two years already. I have raised the issue in Parliament but just received a written reply, which is pointless," Karpal had told reporters.

Comments (25)...

written by carlitos, October 28, 2011 07:21:40

maybe need to force an internet response... get a petition started to support from world wide including from Mongolian & Malaysian citizens to get the news out. ...

written by yolo, October 28, 2011 02:42:27

They will never give her ashes because they want to hold and jail her spirit!!!...once her spirit is release......i don't think the perpetrator will ever have a sweet time in this world......for sure she will avenge.....but by "jailing" her spirit...it will become weaker overtime.......BUT.......KARMA will always be there......My pity for her family!!!! ...

written by lakian, October 28, 2011 02:21:40

what a pity.why the malaysia bar council just can't do anything?karpal singh also can't?the king?international legal bodies?human right protectorates?ngo?legal scholars and students?int diplomatic?usa? ..

written by MalayToo, October 28, 2011 00:58:21

Methinks those who were involved in the killing of this Mongolian girl probably did not read the right history and hence knew too little about the Mongol invasion of Khwarezmia, which marked the beginning of the Mongol conquest of the Islamic states.

It would be the invasion, absolute destruction and complete devastation of the Khwarezmid Empire which would earn the Mongols the name for bloodthirsty ferocity.

In around 1218, Genghis Khan sent a 500-man caravan of Muslims to establish official trade ties with Khwarezmia. However Inalchuq, the governor of the Khwarezmian city of Otrar, had the members of the caravan arrested, claiming that the caravan was a conspiracy against Khwarezmia. Genghis Khan then sent a second group of three ambassadors (one Muslim and two Mongols) to meet the shah (Sultan) himself and demand the caravan at Otrar be set free and the governor be handed over for punishment. The shah had both of the Mongols shaved and had the Muslim beheaded before sending them back to Genghis Khan.

To make the story short, Genghis executed Inalchuq, possibly by pouring molten gold or silver down his throat as retribution.

So, mind you the killers of Altantuya, her spirit is returning to Boleh Land along with that of Genghis Khan to haunt you now ...... ..

written by AlwaysFair, October 28, 2011 00:50:13

Justice for Altantuya and child (pregnant?)who was mercilessly executed and blown to smithereens.

Justice for innocent Teoh Beng Hock who was tortured till he ,"committed suicide."

Justice for innocent Ahmad Sarbaini who died in custody under suspicious circumstances because the video recordings have been deleted.

Justice for all other unlawful deaths while in detention of authorities.

Murderers are cursed by God.

In Deut 27:24 " Cursed is the man who kills his neighbour secretly."

May justice be served one day, if not, may the Almighty God, the defender of the defenceless, repay all the evildoers whether in this age or in the age to come. Amen. ...

written by Labu labi, October 27, 2011 23:21:14

How to write judgement. Later on, court records on this case gone missing / deleted / burnt in court strong room on fire, etc...etc

Same old story like immigration arrival records deleted, macc cctv professionally deleted. ...

written by smallfly, October 27, 2011 23:02:46

No wander Malaysia is buying arms by the Billions. Genghis Khan's army is coming. ..

written by seaneugarchen, October 27, 2011 22:45:40

Mr Setev & family, pls pray hard, the truth will prevail if PR win the coming GE13.............................so pray very hard that PR win this election. ...

written by Ramli, October 27, 2011 22:22:31

I think the only logical solution for Mr. Setev Shaariibuu and the Mongolian Govt to settle this issue once and for all is the International Court Of Justice. ...

written by crookcrab, October 27, 2011 21:27:42

Genghis Khan will resurrect to make sure vvip plain plunge into Indian ocean on 6/11/2011. Avenge to His daughter.... ...

written by Boomeranger, October 27, 2011 20:32:15

The little red dot yonder the Causeway holds the answer to Dr Setev Shaariibuu's agony for reparations.

One would expect the Archives of the most read newspaper ST in Singapore to be complete and unabridged. But horror it was to find out that a period of the Archives was obliterated/out of bounds.

Perhaps, by a kind stroke of divine intervention, someone out there, an employee of the Hotel having taken a pic for memo sake may present it to the lap of Dr Setev, and justice to proceed to completion. ...

written by ku2, October 27, 2011 20:05:26

anything that is associated with Barang Naik is the devil's advocates, be it the judiciary, attorney general, police, pm department, immigration, sprm, and the list goes on.. ...

written by Richard Plywood, October 27, 2011 19:56:54

errrrr... both the two monkeys are not in jail. If any one have any contacts through your grapevine of the so called jail where they keep these two monkeys, you will realized that they are already out and never was in jail after the sentence was put on them. now both of them are happily outside the jail with a different name moving around with no one notice. Go ahead and find for more info of this 2 monkeys. death sentence... it was but never was. ..

written by Hariharan, October 27, 2011 19:10:24

Razak Baginda and his wife are devils. ...

written by Hydra-Shok, October 27, 2011 17:54:04

Jibbi need to wil GE13 by all cost to flex all his power and might to suppressed any proof coming out from this case.

If Jibbi loose s2/3 majority in the GE13, he really have to packed fast and fly out to some beautiful paradise island in the carribean with his billions bcoz PR will need a sacrficial lamb. ...

written by Concerned, October 27, 2011 17:51:56

My sympathy goes to Mr. Setev Shaariibuu, since notting can be done here, why don't get help from the intermational court..... ..

written by malchindian, October 27, 2011 16:58:43

Have you noticed that the common thread linking all of the following characters; Jibby, Rospork, Taib, Kuthy, Soil leg and the rest of bungling bumno-putras is the liberal dependence on bomohs.

Isn't this haram? Doesn't using the services of one neutralise your religious beliefs?

I don't know what the poor man (Mr Setev Shaariibuu) believes in but in my mind, the only way to gain closure for all parties concerned (including us the disgusted rakyat) is in the use of a stronger medium/shaman/bomoh to fight their personal ones.

Is this is too simplistic an observation? ...

written by neilahmad, October 27, 2011 16:48:40

You can clearly see how these is been play out. They screwed her, then C4 her and then refuse to give back the ashes of Altantuya to her parents.

How can one live knowing fully well that he have a hand in the murder of Altantuya.

The spirit of Altantuya will return to haunt these murderers. They will never excel in anything.

I'm waiting for divine intervention. ...

written by flyer168, October 27, 2011 16:20:22

My sympathy goes to Mr. Setev Shaariibuu & his family. A matter of time before Jibby says or does the wrong thing to upset his "Global Masters". The same fate that was designed for Ghaddafi will be Jibby's & Mama's fate. What goes round will come around & justice will be done. ...

written by eloofk, October 27, 2011 16:12:38

Is is not torturing and agonising for Najib and Rosmah to hide behind the Judiciary and the office of the Prime Minister for protection against the spirit of Altantuya?

You cant run and hide forever, wherever you are!!! ..

written by nn, October 27, 2011 15:56:11

JUST RELEASE THE GHOST OF ALTANTUYA TO WHOM IT KILL HER.....JUST SEE WHO GOT IT ..

written by uxzee, October 27, 2011 15:45:57

Can't some MPs question this strange delay in Parliament ? It is unfair to Altantuya, unfair to her family and unfair to Najib who is 'eager to clear' his name.

UMNO has got their sick way of avoiding sensitive issues by delaying and frustrating the legal process.

If this case is not solved, Najib will have to breathe hard every time the name of Altantuya is mentioned. ...

written by Loyal Citizen, October 27, 2011 15:44:33

My sympathy goes to Mr. Setev Shaariibuu. Najis C4 needs the money to buy votes for GE13. If BN regains power you will have to wait until thy kingdom come. ...

written by Hariharan, October 27, 2011 15:34:58

So many have done sins in this case.I pray to you ,God,punish those.If not people will continue doing sins. ...

written by tulan, October 27, 2011 15:34:00

Father of poor Altantuya, Call OWC, SOS for testing how their Spiritually Apparition theory may work wonder to your favour in a 4 year long crusade. We help you by our ballot box but no harm try something spiritual, at least make the culprits haunted every night.... Work together we may have a good chance or else kapuk again we have to wait another 4 years.

LKY once told his Malay minister… “have no worries. In the next 30 years, the Malays in Singapore and the Malays in Malaysia will have the same colour of hair, same colour of skin, same religion, but inside here (pointing to his head) different, the way of thinking'' 'He's right. Malays in Singapore are now more open-minded, not like before. That communal feeling is all gone.'

FRIDAY, JUNE 5, 2009

How the PAP won over the Malays

How the PAP won over the Malays

By Zakir Hussain, Political Correspondent

Mr Othman (left) and Mr Lee walking into the Victoria Theatre on July 19, 1964, for a meeting with Malay leaders, who reaffirmed their support for the PAP Government. -- ST FILE PHOTO

THE crowd of 50,000 at the Padang was jubilant. Facing them, Mr Othman Wok introduced their new leaders.

He was the evening's master of ceremonies. But midway, his party boss intervened.

'Mr Lee Kuan Yew asked me to sit down and let the radio announcers do it,' recalls the 84-year-old with a chuckle.

The order was not an indictment of his ability. It was to show party solidarity.

The People's Action Party (PAP) had achieved a historic victory. It had won 43 out of the 51 seats in the island's first legislative assembly election and was to form the first Government helmed by locals in colonial Singapore.

All 51 PAP candidates - including those who lost - were seated on the City Hall steps to celebrate Singapore's transition to a self-governing state.

For Mr Othman, then a 35-year-old newspaper editor, the rally on June 3, 1959, was a night of bittersweet moments.

Four days earlier, on May 30, 1959, Mr Ali Alwi of the United Malays National Organisation (Umno) had defeated him in Kampong Kembangan, by 244 votes.

Malays in the ward were highly suspicious of the PAP.
Recalling the odds, he says: 'No Malay would volunteer to help in my campaign.

'My wife and relatives helped me put up the election posters. But all the posters were torn down. Some were smeared with human excreta. When I went house to house with pamphlets, they looked at me and said '(This is a) Malay kampung', and tore them up in my face.'

Mr Othman had joined PAP shortly after its founding in 1954. A deputy editor of the now-defunct Utusan Melayu, a Malay-language daily, he was swiftly asked to join the editorial team of the PAP's newsletter, Petir.

Though the PAP was viewed by the Malays as a Chinese party that held little regard for Malay interests, Mr Othman was convinced it would help improve the lot of his community.

He wanted his people to become educated and make good on their own merit, as opposed to receiving handouts or being given special privileges.

It was not a popular view.

PAP candidates in two other Malay-dominated wards - Geylang Serai and Southern Islands - were also beaten by Umno men.

Undeterred, Mr Othman went on to help residents in the Kampong Kembangan constituency even though he had lost there.

'We had said that if the PAP won the election and formed the Government, we would deliver what we had promised to the whole of Singapore, including the constituencies where we lost,' he said.

For months, no Malays turned up at his weekly Meet-The-People sessions held on the verandah of a Chinese resident's house in Jalan Lapang.

But Chinese and Indian residents turned up, seeking help with citizenship, jobs and financial matters.

Much later, an Umno man showed up, to discuss clogged drains, mosquitoes, potholes and the lack of street lighting.

'I told him I would look into this problem, but suggested he also get the kampung folk to gotong royong - work together - with my branch chaps, who were mainly Chinese,' says Mr Othman.

'I told him to go back and discuss it with his kampung folks. Two weeks later, he came back and said they agreed.'

Over several Sundays, they helped clear the drains and repair a number of dirt roads, and once-hostile constituents began to develop a relationship with their PAP man.

Their elected Umno MP was not around.

After Mr Othman was posted to Kuala Lumpur in 1961 to work at Utusan Melayu's head office, the party asked Mr Ariff Suradi, a trade unionist, to look after the ward.

Mr Ariff won the seat handsomely in the 1963 general election, defeating incumbent MP Ali Alwi by 3,435 votes.

In that election, Mr Othman was fielded in Pasir Panjang, where he won. He went on to serve as minister for social affairs from 1963 to 1977.

The PAP's win in Kembangan, and in the other two largely Malay seats, annoyed Umno.

Mr Othman said several of its leaders went on to incite racial tensions, sparking the July 21, 1964 riots, a blot on Singapore's history.

Significantly, Mr Othman says self-government in 1959 enabled Malay Singaporeans to uplift themselves - alongside their countrymen - through education so they could claim an equal share in the country's development.

'Kuan Yew told me: 'Othman, have no worries. In the next 30 years, the Malays in Singapore and the Malays in Malaysia will have the same colour of hair, same colour of skin, same religion, but inside here (pointing to his head) different, the way of thinking,'' he recalls.

'He's right. We Malays in Singapore are now more open-minded, not like before. That communal feeling is all gone.'

There are no "stupid" races in this world. The only problem with some human race is they have been educated differently especially, when they are not trained to provoke their minds to THINK for themselves and also when things are given to them, why work for it. The saying "When you give a fish, you live for a meal, when you teach them to fish, they live for a lifetime" is so true............

So I whack the Malays. I whack them because foreigners think that the Malays are a joke. I am angry with these foreigners. I feel insulted that they say these things about the Malays. I am also Malay. So when they run down the Malays they are also running me down.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

My Malay friends ask me why is it I am very harsh towards the Malays. I am Malay. So why am I cruel towards the Malays? Well, it is because I am Malay that I am cruel. If I am not Malay then I would not be bothered about the Malays.

Do I criticise the Arabs? I have been to Mekah ten times in my life so I know the Arabs very well even if I don’t live in their country. I know what the Arabs are like. They too are Muslims like me. In fact, Mekah is the centre of Islam. So why don’t I also whack the Arabs?

That’s because I don’t care about the Arabs. I do not have nice things to say about the Arabs. So better that I don’t say anything because anything that I would say would be far from complementary. I am not Arab so the Arabs can make fools of themselves for all I care. And they do make fools of themselves.

But when the Malays make fools of themselves I do care. And that is why I am very uncompromising towards the Malays. I care that the Malays make fools of themselves.

I regard it as my right to whack the Malays. Malays have every right to whack the Malays. But I don’t take kindly to the Chinese and Indians whacking the Malays. Malays can whack Malays. But when the Chinese and Indians whack the Malays I will whack them back. I will not let them get away with it.

Okay, I am not a thoroughbred Malay. I am only part-Malay. Only my father is Malay. My mother is Welsh. But then who is a thoroughbred Malay? Most Malays are of mixed blood. The only thing is that my blood is mixed with Welsh blood, not with Javanese, Sumatran, Siamese, Minangkabau, Acheh, Indian, Chinese, etc., blood.

So what if my blood is mixed with Caucasian blood and not with Javanese, Sumatran, Siamese, Minangkabau, Acheh, Indian, Chinese, etc., blood? Mixed blood is mixed blood. Whether it is Asian-European or Asian-Asian, it is still mixed blood.

In fact, my great grandmother was Orang Asli. Her name was Hasnah Binti Pelong. She was the second wife of Sultan Ala'Eddin Suleiman Shah, the Fifth Sultan of Selangor.

Sultan Suleiman was Bugis. So that, in fact, makes me more Malay than many Malays in Malaysia in spite of my Welsh blood. I have Orang Asli blood in me. I have more right to Malaysia than millions of other pendatang Malays who invaded my country and now claim it as their own.

Bumiputera konon! Hello brader. We Orang Asli were here first. So don’t try to play that who is more Malay game with me. You will lose.

I interact with Japanese, Koreans, Americans, British, French, Germans, Indonesians, Thais, Singaporeans, Filipinos, and people from many other countries. Somehow they don’t see me as Malay. Maybe it is because of how I look. So they talk to me. They tell me a lot. They tell me what they think. And they think very poorly of the Malays.

These foreigners tell me that the only reason they employ Malays is because of the requirements of the New Economic Policy. If not for that they would not employ Malays. They said they could employ one Chinese for three Malays they employ. One Chinese can do the job of three Malays.

They think Malays are lazy. They think Malays are very slow. They think Malays lack initiative. They think Malays lack grey matter.

There I sit listening to foreign investors and managers running down the Malays while forgetting that I am also Malay. If it were one or two who say this I would say these people are bigots who are prejudiced against the Malays. But when everyone tells me this then the problem must be real. The problem must be the Malays.
So I whack the Malays. I whack them because foreigners think that the Malays are a joke. I am angry with these foreigners. I feel insulted that they say these things about the Malays. I am also Malay. So when they run down the Malays they are also running me down.

I cannot whack the foreigners. I cannot whack them not because I am scared they will not come to Malaysia. I cannot whack them because I know they are telling the truth.

Of course the truth hurts. The truth always hurts. And because it is the truth I cannot whack the foreigners for running down the Malays. The anger builds up in me. I need to whack somebody. But I can’t whack those who are telling the truth. So I whack the Malays instead. I whack the Malays because I am ashamed that the foreigners say bad things about the Malays and also because what they are saying is the truth and there is no way I can argue with them or prove them wrong.

But that does not mean I like others whacking the Malays. If you whack the Malay I will whack you back. If you are another Malay then that is okay. But if you are not Malay and you whack the Malays then I will whack you back. I have my pride and dignity and if you insult the Malays then you are insulting me as well. And I don’t take kindly to insults. So you whack the Malays at your own peril.

Comments (9)...

written by Leadership, October 28, 2011 07:58:40

Barisan government is creating a fool's paradise with Malays highly addicted for money, religion and power. PAS and PKR are little better. The skills and knowledge development efforts aimed at Malays are little more than farcical. Sheer irresponsibility and ability to get away with "murder" are driving Malays into toilet pits. It is the officially sponsored wanton deviation from universal principles that is causing Malays to loose respect in the world. It is the few in power who are manipulating the rest in the name of race, religion, money and security. What Malays need urgently is capable, responsible and therefore respectable leadership. So far, that seems to be terribly on short supply. So, RPK, no matter how much you whack Malays, nothing significantly positive can emerge to save Malays. Malaysia as a result is heading towards the same terrible fate as the African and Middle Eastern nations that suffer from the same. ...

written by Taichekgong66, October 28, 2011 07:58:00

I like this article. It's the truth speaking from the HEARt that matters. Whacking is a way of check and balance. That's how one improves and become better! It boils down to the HEART. If the listener had bad heart they read this article as negative then they think RPK is anti Malays. But it the HEART is good they will thank RPK's effort!

The truth isn't hurtful if you accept it and vow to improve to betterment! ...

written by Akmal, October 28, 2011 07:53:58

I know how you feel, RPK, being a mixed Malay who hardly looks Malay at all, I have that exact same feeling. When people of other races and nationalities whack the entire Malay race, I too feel the anger, but I can't whack the others for saying the truth (or at least 60% truth). This is a ripple effect too, as other Malays who get whacked also realise that a significant majority of their own race is bringing their reputation down.

Also, as xlandjy said, other races have their share of issues too. However I do think that the Malays could have progressed far better if given the right education from the start. What we have today is two generations of mental poisoning that might take at least another generation to reverse if not two or more. ...

written by richfyf2000, October 28, 2011 07:53:51

I think its all about politics. UMNO been playing the racial politics for too long. I am sure Malaysian are tired of it.

But if Chua Soi Lek were to stand for election against Nizar I am sure most Chinese will vote for Nizar instead of CSL ...

written by Aldwin, October 28, 2011 07:47:41

I believe there are no "stupid" races in this world. The only problem with some human race is they have been educated differently especially, when they are not trained to provoke their minds to THINK for themselves and also when things are given to them, why work for it. The saying "When you give a fish, you live for a meal, when you teach them to fish, they live for a lifetime" is so true. I have seen lazy people all over, and also have seen hard working people too, irrespective of races. ...

written by Hariharan, October 28, 2011 07:47:39

RPK is trying to bring justice to many injustice incidents in Malaysia.I dont think he is anti race. ...

written by JJFoo, October 28, 2011 07:34:46

The key lies in thinking as "Malaysian" and not as Malay,Chinese, Islam, Hindu, Buddhist and what not. But after decades of racist indoctrination it sure won't be easy.
Trap like fishes, swimming in circles in a bowl, the only way out is to be liberal and colour blind, otherwise keep swimming in circles and suffer while crooks and thieves rule ...

written by tulan, October 28, 2011 07:18:10

In this sophiticated world people tends to be diplomatic and says compliments to the otherwise. If they say Pig can Fly you better be careful!
I am a Chinese and I hate japanese killed Chinese in WWII, but I admire how these short guys can stand up tall and fast in 20 years after a dust biting surrender... The same goes to Germans. We cannot afford not to learn from them.
All races learn from the values and merits of others, to heal their weakness, avoid the stupidity of humanity, like what RPK illustrated all the while.

But sad to see a pompous beruk of Bodohland, got the guts to instigate interpolis to take the Cream of Malay to his kampung zoo's "justice cage". Also, a sheer shame to Malay, to see Mat sabu being summoned to court case. ...

written by xlandjy, October 28, 2011 07:02:01

Dear RPK,

I think this is the problems with you Malaysians and also with us Singaporeans. Pl note, I am saying Malaysians. I am not referring to Malays.
Both sides of the causeway have the same ruling party for half a century. They were all subjected to the same Divide and Rule. Both ruling parties exploited the racial segregation to their own benefits. Whilst they verbally called for multi racialism and integration; in their heart and mind, they try their very best to keep the people apart.
After long some many years, the people of both sides speak and think like UMNO and our PAP. They think and write everything in racial terms. Even for your DAP, when their talk about racial equality, they immediately follow with equal treatment to the Chinese in economic policy and civil service. What about other havenots who are not Chinese?
Even for you RPK, there are Malays who are not so diligent; but there are diligent Malays. It is the same for Chinese and Indians; who also have their fair share of diligent and not diligent people. So, if you wanna whack lazy people; just go ahead to whack them. Why confine only to the Malays...
I am sure if you have the last plate of rice and faced with two other hungry persons; you would generously share with them... I am sure you would go ahead and share with them without looking at their skin right...
To build a new Malaysia and Singapore.. first we have to do away with the tinted glass.. and it start with you and me.

"There is a feeling that 'English is enough' because it is spoken everywhere, but this is not true,"..........."Businesses are not looking for people who are fluent, but those who can do basic conversation and break the ice. It gives a good impression of that company."

In the global jobs market, foreign talk isn't cheap, it's invaluable


27 October 2011

By Jack Grove

Lack of language skills hampers UK graduates' efforts to find employment. Jack Grove reports

Graduates from UK universities are losing out on top international jobs because they cannot speak a second language, academics and business leaders have warned.

Serious concerns about the lack of multilingual graduates were raised at a policy meeting at the Houses of Parliament on 19 October to discuss student skills and employability.

Business leaders, academics, MPs and peers said the UK's education system, including universities, was failing to encourage students to study languages, whereas overseas students were expected to speak several languages regardless of what they were studying.

"No university should be producing graduates who cannot function at a basic level in another language," said Baroness Coussins, chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Modern Languages, after the event, which was organised by the Industry and Parliament Trust.

"There is a feeling that 'English is enough' because it is spoken everywhere, but this is not true," she said. "Businesses are not looking for people who are fluent, but those who can do basic conversation and break the ice. It gives a good impression of that company."

The failure to promote multilingual graduates was "harming Britain's economic competitiveness", she added, as university leavers were struggling to win top places at multinational companies and institutions because their language skills let them down.

This meant that only 1.5 per cent of the 51,000 applicants for European Union jobs in Brussels this year were British, she said, which resulted in just seven successful UK candidates.

Tim Connell, former director of language studies at City University London, said life skills gained by multilingual graduates on year-abroad placements were also attractive to employers.

"Students have to be so adaptable because the skill sets required by businesses are changing so quickly," said Professor Connell, who is vice-president of the Chartered Institute of Linguists.

"What you learn in your degree is normally out of date within five years, so what students carry with them are their skills," he added.

"I think higher education is very modest about the transferable skills that it gives to students."

"Soft skills" were also important for graduates entering the job market, said Florence Mele, director of studies at international business school ESCP Europe, where students must study in three countries during its two-year courses.

Presentation skills, public speaking and business etiquette were vital, she explained, as were the ability to project manage, meet deadlines and engage well with people from other countries and cultures.

Technical skills such as competency with Excel spreadsheets and PowerPoint were also required, she added.

Despite concerns from participants that students should concentrate on academic learning, Ms Mele said these deficits in other skills should be addressed by universities.

"These are the skills that will help students find jobs - it is a university's responsibility to train them in these skills," she said.

David Coen, professor of public policy at University College London, said universities should encourage all students to develop language skills throughout their degrees.

Sustained study of a foreign language beyond secondary school was vital when applying to multinational corporations, he insisted.

"If someone applies with only GCSE French, they will not have the requisite skills to compete for those jobs," he said.

jack.grove@tsleducation.com.

WHY SHOULD WE LET THE GOVERNMENT BLATANTLY WASTE PUBLIC FUNDS..??? IF THAT IS THE CASE...(IN SIMPLE LOGIC) WHY SHOULD WE PAY INCOME TAXES THEN...?? IF THE AUTHORITIES CAN PROSECUTE THOSE WHO FAILED TO PAY INCOME TAXES, WHY CAN’T WE SUE THE GOVERNMENT FOR THE UNSCRUPULOUS SPENDING AND PLUNDERING OF PUBLIC FUNDS?

The government will pay RM7.55-billion for 257 APCs, four times more than an originally intended deal made earlier this year.

(Free Malaysia Today) - Under a new agreement, the government will pay RM7.55 billion for 257 armored personnel carriers (APCs), four times more for the same deal made earlier this year.

However, the government claims to have no knowledge of the February deal for 257 Turkish Pars 8×8 APCs, which at the time, cost US$559 million (RM1.749 billion).

This irked DAP’s PJ Utara MP Tony Pua, who launched an attack on the government.

“Minister of Defence Ahmad Zahid Hamidi was there to witness the signing between (Turkish company) FNSS and (Malaysian company) Deftech,” he said.

Speaking to reporters in Parliament, he said the difference in price is so big that a responsible government must ask, “What are the differences that make up the gap (between the two prices)?”

On Oct 18, Pua asked the defence minister in Parliament why the government was willing to spend RM7.8 billion for the 257 APCs.

In a written response, Zahid replied: “The finalised price for the procurement of 257 APCs is RM7.55 billion for a period of seven years from 2011 to 2018, and not RM7.8 billion as said.”

“The Defence Ministry has no information over the 257 APCs by Deftech… with Turkey’s FNSS for the price of US$559 million. Therefore, the question is out of the ministry’s knowledge.”

According to a Jun 3 BAE Systems news release, military equipment manufacturer FNSS signed a US$559-million letter of offer and acceptance from Deftech Sdn Bhd for the design, development and building of the 257 APCs.

Comments (72)...

written by onnetline, October 26, 2011 23:59:27

MA' Sissies ', on a case as BIG as this and with ' inflated ' RM billions, your tails are without a doubt or definitely ' between your legs ' ......... even when it's clearly shown that the Def.Minister is lying to the public through Tony Pua's questioning, right ? Or you're given a piece of the action too ? ..

written by plabeuk, October 25, 2011 23:47:49

Focus on the billions and ignore the cases involving millions that the MSM are distracting you with. Recently, we bought trains for billions where each cost bout RM 40 million - more than some jet fighters. A few years ago, we developed a chip for about 1 billion - that no one is using. ...

written by jack lee, October 25, 2011 22:39:23

That's the reason why Malaysian millionaires have double the past year. ...

written by Y. Thiam, October 25, 2011 16:45:06

Should Pakatan succeed in kicking out UMNO/BN in GE-13, the new government should quickly set up special teams with the power to round up the many past and present UMNO/BN scum, crooks and devils and their accomplices before they can take flight. We must make sure they will not be spared the appropriate, lawful punishment they so deserve, if the law finds them guilty of robbing the country's wealth. To be honest, you don't need to genius to figure out how a country blessed with so much natural resources could be mired in a national debt to the tune of RM407 billion if not for the wholesale, widespread corruption of the UMNO/BM regime, past and prsent! Retribution time - Vote out UMNO/BN! ...

written by flyer168, October 25, 2011 16:00:22

"Under a new agreement, the government will pay RM7.55 billion for 257 armored personnel carriers (APCs), four times more for the same deal made earlier this year."

Hello,

Just who are the Foreign or Neighbouring threats & "Enemies of Ketuanan UMNO/BN"...?

They have already got Bolehland's Leaders by the "Orbs" (read APCO!)

Their real "Enemies" are all within the Ketuanan UNMO itself !

So all that spending just to counter the BERSIH 2 "Free & Fair Elections" demands?

Looks like it is all a Syok Sendiri & the last Kopek $$$ exercise...at the expense of the Taxpayers again !

Shalom. ..

written by guest, October 25, 2011 15:54:02 darn greed knows no boundaries our hard earned money is bluntly "misused" !!!!!! im so darn MAD ...

written by Melayu Boleh, October 25, 2011 14:42:56

What to worry ... we have learned good lesson from Libya (Gaddafi), once we (PKR) take over the government we extradict PM, RM, and all his ministers, including KSUs, DGs and head of dept.

No need to go to court, get M16 (or c4) arrange those busted lanun, penyamun, perompak in few rows .... and you know what to do next .... ...

written by Leon, October 25, 2011 14:20:14

Tony Pua,

How come you dare to question defence ministry? You are not patriotic! Your Nationality can be rebuked !

These 7.5b are R&D fund lah. You never watched Batman's Dark Knight sequel? One of the auditor (is you) questioning why Wayne (Batman) spent so much company fund in R&D, and got intimidated by assistant.

Don't you know Batman has came out many weapons from R&D?

1. Ring can shoot laser, but to cover it with diamond

2. machine gun hide in handbags

3. speed turbo jet can fly to Australia or Europe in shortest time, and can't be detected by radar and media

4. many more... ..

written by Bourne, October 25, 2011 13:23:10

Don't be surprised that the APC's don't come with engines. To install engines another RM 7 billion! When countries are struggling with their daily lives, our corrupt govt spends like there's no tomorrow.

In fact this could be their back up plan... to bankrupt the nation before Pakatan takes over. If that is the case, Pakatan should start thinking about how to recover these stolen monies from off shore accounts and get the cooperation of foreign countries to freeze the crooks assets and also to bring them to face charges. ...

written by jibbidyjibbidyjibb, October 25, 2011 13:16:29

After GE13, all of us will SUFFER!!!: GST, price hike for sugar, electric, toll, water, and all essential goods. Please take note you BN supporters (that kiss the hands of BN reps as if they are gods). Everyone will suffer if Bn continue to rule! ..

written by ta, October 25, 2011 11:59:33

i will not pay for income tax when gov ask why, i will say I DUNNO ! who you think you wanna make fool with ? even kampong folks will not believe that RM30 mil for a lorry if you spend your datuk or nenek money I don't give you a damn care, but you spent the tax money that i paid, that is why i want to know jawab, jangan tak jawab ...

written by casperclc, October 25, 2011 11:38:26

RPK and better half, high time to make a return home.

HIMPUN didn't make it any where near the 1 million mark BUT I'm certain we can now that Zahid Hamidi has given us the impetus. Let's make it a one million man march plus 2 as there is no better occasion.

Time to come home to lead the charge RPK. Give me a time and I'll personally come greet the pair of you at whichever point of entry - by air, sea or jalan kaki.

The failure to react to this latest brazen act of thievery, one might as well hold one's breath, stop inhalling and drop dead. ...

written by RavingRabbits, October 25, 2011 11:36:40

The government must be delusional, scared of its own shadow and creating imaginary enemies, else how would they justify the purchase of subpar overpriced submarines who can't sink and now this APCs who probably can't move cut cost mah, like proton take out things here and there and call it a car.

But i guess its true, they do have imaginary enemies, look no further than the race and religion "war" or wayang kulit to the normal people on the street in our homeland. ...

written by Mohd Kalid, October 25, 2011 11:03:09

Pls tell me how van I stop paying my income tax...is there any way the rakyat can boycott paying income tax as the stupid UMNO led BN government is wasting my money? Any consultants out there ...

written by casperclc, October 25, 2011 10:53:18

257 APC's but WHO exactly are we up against.

Last time I checked, our immediate neighbours that consist of ASEAN member countries are all at peace and the only mention of any battle is probably in trade and commerce. Tell me, who exactly are we up against for the need to spend RM$7 billion++.

Time for a reality check all you mader effin 'chow kai' - starting with Zahid Hamidi with his plea of ignorance - don't know what happened in between the time of first quote and final price struck. It is sheer lunacy all this money being siphon off right under our eyes.

*BTW, this Zahid Hamidi is now a marked man. Whoever that is up against him next contest should have plenty of ammo to prick the conscience of voters. This is not the plunder of millions but a world class astronomical billion.

Washington should take note how this UMNO garbage of a government make off with billions in hot money and laundering the proceeds for sinister purposes. Matter of fact, every single member of UMNO's Supreme Council should warrant the same red flag as potential terrorist. ...

written by Angryman, October 25, 2011 10:11:26

257 APCs to ferry few soldiers? RM7.55 billion is enough to arm all able body man in Malaysia, no need APCs. ...

written by Nawi Bin Abdullah, October 25, 2011 10:04:28

Dear All, Why are we arming ourselves to the teeth? Do we have potential enemies around us? Then why are we buying second-rated (second-hand) hardwares at exorbitant prices? Has anybody asked that simple question; and why the government is unaware of the price difference? Our leaders have gone mad!

Regards,

NBA ...

written by tellitlikeitis, October 25, 2011 08:43:03

just another case of misuse of civilian funds.

they have become arrogant and trying to squeeze every last drop they can get from the coffers.

c***k on this link http://thestar.com.my/news/sto...ec=nation to see more atrocious actions by the BN GOM ...

written by ds, October 25, 2011 08:03:51

It is more like pimped up APC ..

written by Apek, October 25, 2011 07:54:41

Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, you bloody idiot.

How can you even dare say that you do not know what had happened under your ministry. You spent 7.5 BILLION of our hard earned money to buy basic APC's that have no real proven track record. How many homes for the poor could have been built with that money? How many Good teachers paid with that money? How much scientific and cutting edge equipment could have been bought for R&D in our public universities. All you do is to allow 7.5 BILLION get squandered. The Rakyat's mponey is not to be used to support your political base. It is to be used (in your case if you have not already figured that out) for DEFENCE. You bloody idiot. You bloody idiot.

The whole cabinet must resign - if not, this government MUST be held immediately responsible. ..

written by abdullah37, October 25, 2011 07:21:51 RM30,000,000 for each APC? It is like hitting Magnum's 4D Jackpot at it's highest and we are buying 257 units. Just like striking Magnum 4D Jackpot 257 all in a row. No wonder the list of billionaires in Malaysia is ever increasing. Anyway, it is a good thing coz we are now powerful enough to face and fight any nation on earth. Syabas, Malaysia paling BOLEH ..

written by abdullah37, October 25, 2011 07:11:08 Hello, jealous ah? Everyone is doing it, why can't I and why just pick on me? ...

written by casperclc, October 25, 2011 06:05:36 Time for Tan Sri Robert Phang to make a trip to Istanbul and start inquiries. Mind you, Turkey's PM Recep Erdogan is well known as a straight lace kind of guy, one who will not tolerate any mention of corruption.

Let's just wait and see if there are two parties complicit in this enormous mark-up or just our end. It wouldn't be difficult to solicit a response from Erdogan because such a query would also arouse suspicion on Erdogan and members of his cabinet. ...

written by jojo, October 25, 2011 01:04:29

Easy Money, Hey thats the RAKYAT money .What are you trying to do with our money Mr. Zahid ?

Mr. Zahid , please, dont try to fool the Rakyat.We had enough of The fables ot the scorpene submarines that cannot dive, the Eurocopters, now The armoured carriers..and maybe next the UFO !!!!!!!!!!

GOD SAVE OUR COUNTRY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...

written by wits0, October 25, 2011 00:48:55

A Hellfire missile carried by a drone or an attack copter like the Apache costs around US$70,000 each.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What...e_Missile

This is good enough to destroy even a battle tank.

So, it takes just US70,000 to destroy a US9.5Million armored personnel carrier of Malusia.

Vely clever boy, Malusia! ...

written by Dntan, October 25, 2011 00:15:25

Please, for the sake of our beloved country and the future of our children, do the right thing in the next GE! ...

written by KC, October 24, 2011 23:35:05

Talk only no use. Let take action to ask people who responsible for the deal to go to 'jail'. Thing will happen again and again if no corrective action taken. Come on. ...

written by Hydra-shok, October 24, 2011 23:20:49

and the plundering goes on and on. Seems Ammenos know they will be loosing big in the next GE13, so why not speed-up their ill gotten wealth and retire peacefully in some paradise island. ...

written by BP Lim, October 24, 2011 22:43:01

Look like Malaysia is going to set up a armour personnel carrier industry. Will it go the same way as proton?

According to link blow from upi.com, German Army bought German-built Boxer Multi-Role Armoured Vehicle cost of round around US$625,000 each when the German army bought 200 in 2006; and US Army paid for its Stryker 8x8 APCs is around US$1.9 million each.

We try to out do the German and US by paying US$ 9.8 million per vehicle.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_Ne...z1bi1PMubb

According to another article from defense-update.com which commented " that the cost of the new vehicle seems excessively high - about $9.8 million per unit. Malaysian defense officials explained that these figures represent the total life cycle cost of the program, including which usually includes design, development, logistical support and sustainment as well as non-recurring engineering costs and investments associated with the set-up of local production facilities in Malaysia to develop its armored vehicle manufacturing. Yet, even when considering a 250% mark-up to cover such the price tag on the new Malaysian vehicle seem odd."

http://defense-update.com/features/2010/april/malaysian_8x8_deftech_21042010.html .

written by duuude, October 24, 2011 22:21:12 RM 7,550,000,000 / 257 APCs = RM 29,377,431.91 per APC

Approximately 6mil Euros, 5mil GBP or 10mil USD per APC.

Seems a bit expensive for what are basically armored cars.

As a very basic comparison, the US Army's Stryker AFV costs $3.8 million

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryker ) and their Bradley AFV costs $3.166M ( http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m2.htm )

Makes me wonder what are the fantastic add-ons being bundled with our AFVs! ...

written by mob1900, October 24, 2011 22:16:02

The Real Reason Why We Can't Question Our Military Contracts!

Turns out these are the ‘Tricked-Out’ options our wise Def. Ministry conveniently forgot to tell us.

Car audio + boom2x speaker sets are separate options. Choices like 'Feng-Tau' and 'EmCit-EmCit-EmCit' packages are available for purchase. ..

written by watsasadday, October 24, 2011 21:58:13

More than 2 mil per APC? Wow! Just how many carrier they need to carry their loots!!!!
No tender...all wishy washy.... all under table... all dubious inflated commission.... all within the corrupted circles....

Great news.... Allowing them to get 2mil carrier to cart their loots!!!! ...

written by Zigger, October 24, 2011 21:45:28

UMNO use diversion tactics like sex videos and religious issues to cover up their stealing from the taxpayers monies. They dipped their fingers into the treasuries of the taxpayers and the taxpayers are mesmerised by the sex videos and religious issues. ...

written by sandokan, October 24, 2011 21:36:56

Lets stop the deal. Get the company name and get the international press to find out the actuall price tag. ...

written by Eskay345, October 24, 2011 21:23:08

GOD, Please help us. When will the plundering by the Amenos stop?

These Ameno thieves are taking turns raiding the Treasury through military procurements of jet-planes, submarines and now the APCs.

They advise the rakyat to tighten belts but they plunder the nations by the billions.
The Defence Minister denied knowledge of the particular deal even though he was present as a witness. ...... I bet his ministry DG and his Secretary-General will deny ever having read the S&P Contracts before the documents were sent for signing....... Blaardy.. licenced thieves. ...

written by Minister of Blind, Deaf & Dumb., October 24, 2011 21:13:20

Aiyah! Remember Perimaker/Scorpene or not. It's the same con. FNSS, the Turkey arms manufacturer build and sell to Deftech SDN. BHD. 257 APC for RM 1,749B [USD. 559]. Then Deftech take and sell to MINDEF for RM 7.55B. UNTUNG [ 7.55 - 1.749 ] 5.801 BILLION RINGGIT ONLY. Then Minister for The Fence, Zahid Pencuri, looks heaven ward, and rolls his eyes and says 'I donno. Got meh ?' So after paying off the Translator/Mistress ala Altantuya,[they learn their lesson already.pay! dont blow up.] they got money to buy rings, birkin bags etc. The end. ...... oh! I forgot. They told chua soi lek to shut the F**k up when he told them not to overspend. ...

written by JahitGadaffi, October 24, 2011 21:04:49

Jahit, Mr.John Kelly dan Mr.Nail Kurt sudah announce lah! you tak beritahu mereka you mahu markup 4 kali ganda ke??? kaang nak cover camana???http://www.trdefence.com/2011/...-8x8-apcs/ ..

written by selangor dude, October 24, 2011 20:46:59

They need to siphon off that much money to finance GE 13 or park the excess abroad in case BN fails in GE13. They will come up with more contracts to legitimise looting from the govt coffers . This will be evident soon. ...

written by taken1978, October 24, 2011 20:31:57

BAE Systems Inc.’s FNSS Joint Venture Receives $559 Million Award from DEFTECH to Provide AV-8 Vehicles for the Malaysian Armed Forces03 Jun 2011
Ref. 105/2011

ARLINGTON, Virginia – FNSS of Turkey, a joint venture between BAE Systems, Inc. and Nurol Holding of Turkey, has received and signed a $559 million letter of offer and acceptance (LOA) from DEFTECH of Malaysia for the design, development and manufacture of 257 DEFTECH AV-8 8x8 wheeled armored vehicles and Integrated Logistics Support for the Malaysian Armed Forces.

http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/autoGen_11153155557.html ...

written by onnetline, October 24, 2011 20:29:04

These are what the corrupted ARMNOs SOBs do best ........... robbing and stealing from the tax payers or country's coffers. Sial ! ...

written by moyang ngkau, October 24, 2011 20:24:36

no point bising bising..you shout, scream like hell nobody cares. These corrupted Bastard mission stay as minister is to get as much as he can and then got away and live happily ever after. Only one way to stop them is ABU.in GE 13.....kill all the "BASTARD"

written by JEFFLIM118, October 24, 2011 20:21:38

This is really the work of F**king bastards. Knowing very well they are facing the risk of losing Putrajaya, they sign the contract till 2018 inorder to pocket whatever possibly they can take in advance.

There is no better word to describe these crooks but except to brand them real BASTURDS BASTURDS BASTURDS. ...

written by Hanuman@, October 24, 2011 20:20:04

What are the freaking senate doing? Earning their monthly wages without moving their asses to question defence spending. ...

written by Pro arte, October 24, 2011 20:18:15

The French seem to be favoured in multi billion dollar defence contracts these days. If the price has balloon by 400% one can only imagine the massive amounts paid in bribes to the French as well as Najib's proxies.

Can the French afford to implicate Najib in the murder of Altantunya? Will the impeding trial be a whitewash in order to keep those billion dollar contract coming? Remains to be seen.

I am not hopeful. ...

written by whlau, October 24, 2011 20:15:59

This is good fodder for the opposition when election time comes. At all their ceramahs, they should highlight all the sickening excesses that the present ruling gomen is condoning and let everyone, especially the kampong folks know about this. Make a comparison between their lifestyles and those whose names are involved in all the dubious deals that they are privy to. Make a big issue out of this because this has been the norm every each year that the ruling gomen rules this country. And we are real sick of this! At the way this is happening, bankruptcy of the country is not too far away if nothing is been done to nip it in the butt. ..

written by temenggong, October 24, 2011 20:07:37

We'd like to know where did the 'original' price of $559 million come from, before we can comment further.

It is simply not possible to buy an armoured car at $2.17 million a piece, and without any facilities and parts. ...written by c**tnineh, October 24, 2011 20:06:48

When will all Malaysians wake up from their slumber to remove this band of thieving scumbags from power??? This band of thieving scumbags are pilfering our national coffers till they are empty and yet we remain apathetic and blissful! Sigh! ...

written by Hariharan, October 24, 2011 20:01:50

Can anybody tell us is the 257 APC cars are very necessasity for our army? ...

written by Osama, October 24, 2011 19:56:41

No other solutions, other than shoot or hang the thiefs. they are the country sampah masyarakat ...

written by alfred ho, October 24, 2011 19:55:18

the government of the day is plundering the country's financial resources. it is criminal to waste so much of the country's finance on expensive armaments. which country in their right mind would want to invade malaysia. alfred ho ..

written by Desertbug, October 24, 2011 19:50:49

Wah, I'm impressed by Malaysia's capability to spend when the global economy is such a jittery state. Maybe, the Gomen knows something we don't !

Dumb-assed Rakyat noises can be abated by dishing out RM500.....no worries. Dumber-assed rakyat voted BN in the last time. So what if BN lose in the next, BN already got the honey pot to themselves right now !

Dumb assed rakyat ! ...

written by Gambitt, October 24, 2011 19:43:52

i am feeling sick in the stomach.....excuse me i need to vomit blood ...

written by SpicaTwo, October 24, 2011 19:41:11

sheer bastardly to rob like this. we shud internationalise this issue and spread the names and pictures of that Zahidi and Najib as robbers of the nation so that they cannot escape when the time eventually comes with GE 13. ...

written by umno is going down, October 24, 2011 19:29:47

so they know they are going to lose GE13

just b4 they lose GE 13 and run to other countries

they want to suck the rakyat dry

even if it means selling the rakyat's soul

these people are worse than robbers

robbers can only steal all your money u have

but these people will steal not only your money, but your children's money and future, even if they are not born yet

how? they borrow heavy debts in the rakyat's name and use for themselves

and who needs to pay them? definitely this generation of rakyat wont be able to pay off RM 407b debt

who pay them? our future generations, its crazy when u think about it, very innocent children who is not even borne yet already got the word DEBT stapled on their head

written by smallfly, October 24, 2011 19:28:38

That's what we call precious APCs, must be supplied from some famous jeweler in NY. .

written by cheekhiaw, October 24, 2011 19:12:16

Do you all know how many thieves those Advanced Pencuri Carriers need to carry or not? ...

written by Revolution, October 24, 2011 18:52:22

While we fight for religious or sexual matters they created , they stole us as much as they can ...

Devils in disguise ... ...

written by tanstaafl, October 24, 2011 18:37:57

And here we were thinking the Scorpene deal was obscene .... who is going to die to cover up this particular deal? ...

written by zonefinder, October 24, 2011 18:35:59

Cost to DRB Hicom is Rgt 6.8m so charge to Mindef for service maintenance is Rgt 23m...each! Might as well buy another new APC to replace ...no need to repair. I bet most of these 23 m goes to the pockets of the UMNO cronies. I also want to join UMNO!! ...

written by Malay Gentile, October 24, 2011 18:32:20

In today's world the arms trade is big business ..... ...

written by klsar1, October 24, 2011 18:30:59

GOVERNMENT IS STEALING MY TAX MONEY !! I WANT REFUND !! ...

written by True Malaysian, October 24, 2011 18:26:32

the APC made of gold? ...

written by SamYap, October 24, 2011 18:26:10

I feel sick! Really, I am truly nauseated when I read the first few lines.

That is a helluva lot of juice, man! Does anyone even begin to realize what it could have done for developing our country? Upgrading our educational institutions and healthcare?

Do the grass roots supporters of UMNO, MCA, MIC and Gerakan even knows what it could have been used for their children? Their friends' children? Their neighbour's children?

Why do we so many APCs? Are we expecting hostilities to break out within a year or so? And who are the enemies, Israel? Singapore? Thailand? Philipines? Vietnam? Communist or is it capitalist China? maybe Australia?
Bastards! Bastards! ...

written by zonefinder, October 24, 2011 18:16:21

People, we are talking about 7,550 million ringgit here. Almost rgt 30 million for each APC. That means each APC is equivalent to 600 units of Perodua Myvis or 90 units of BMW 5 Series!! Might as well let our soldiers drive a BMW each. The enemies will want to join us! It doesn't make sense!! ..

written by Bourne, October 24, 2011 18:11:15

This is exactly what we should be focusing on instead of OWC, religion, gutter politics and trivial issues. This is the sort of issues if left unchecked will certainly bankrupt the nation.

Time and again we have seen the BN govt paying inflated prices for contracts etc and most of it is either defence or construction as these has the best cover for inflating costs. I have worked for construction companies in the past and its so easy to disguise these kickbacks. ...

written by bumiputar, October 24, 2011 18:04:15

motherfcukers!!!!!

Now I cannot take out all my saving in EPF, by the time i can take, it may valued at Indon level.... FCUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!

Mampoi la...ini kali. ..

written by richfyf2000, October 24, 2011 17:47:23

257 APC at 7.5 Billion?? That's RM 30 Million each. No wonder can give free Diamond Ring to FLOM. ..

written by bumiputar, October 24, 2011 17:44:44 Those F**king be-end supporters, still sleeping???

Soon when you wake up, you/and your son will have to work as construction worker and your wife/daugther as maid in indon oredi...do you still think this is fun? ...

written by AndyL, October 24, 2011 17:42:17

Would UMNO supporters care about billions...and billions...being siphoned off via few time inflated costs???

....still being so grateful to UMNO???? ...

written by supps, October 24, 2011 17:31:29

OMG! Please folks, do not be distracted by fear of hudud in the future. Let's go ABU because of the rampant plundering of public money that is taking place now. Let's all spread the word to friends and relatives. Let corruption become a talking point. ...

written by melayu mudah lupa, October 24, 2011 17:30:12

Hurrah hurrah selamat Hari Diwali, Now we pesta dan samun pakai Tabung Negara sampai ke syurga dan bisa jumpa anak anak dara. I am Anak Zorro Hero so i am now in charge of all the members of Ali Baba Bujang Lapuk and I am ready to sapu all your belongings from NOW UNTIL 2MORO.

Hurrah hurrah remember my name Anak Zorro Hero. ...

written by syd, October 24, 2011 17:20:33

It's a gift from Malaysia to Yemen.

Syed mokhtar's deal is always similar to that of the ones made with the forty thieves.

You name it, whether it is dredging, airports, mrt's, he is always thinking of a way to rob and rape.

Malaysians need to work so hard not because they like to work hard but because they need to work to feed the fat cow's appetite meaning if there is no UMNO = no corruption = Malaysians no longer need work their ass off = more free time to be spent on household work = NO NEED FOR MAIDS..............

By Luke Hunt, The Diplomat

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak hasn’t put a political foot wrong since speculation began an election could be called for as soon as November or early in the New Year. First, he announced an inquiry into electoral reforms, then repealed laws curtailing civil liberties and delivered an election friendly budget.

But Najib pulled off a real coup last week, winning an agreement from Jakarta that will allow Indonesian maids to return to work in Malaysia. That decision will prove popular, particularly among the middle class Muslim women of Peninsula Malaysia who say they are suffering from a lack of domestic help after Indonesia banned its women from working there because of appalling treatment meted out by many employers.

Critics argue that domestic helpers, who don’t enjoy a minimum wage or a day off a week, are little more than modern day slaves for the self-indulged. Such concerns, along with further reports of abuse, resulted in Cambodia compounding Malaysia’s problems and banning its women from working there, too.

Kuala Lumpur says it needs 300,000 maids to meet demand. There is currently a 100,000 shortfall and a growing waiting list of irritable and wealthy women who are demanding extra help in the home and who blame the government for export bans on maids.

The timing couldn’t have been better for Najib, although his bureaucrats, along with their peers in Singapore, would have paid close attention to a court decision in Hong Kong where domestic helpers have traditionally enjoyed far better work conditions.

Hong Kong’s High Court found in favour of a Filipino maid who has lived in Hong Kong since 1986 and challenged laws that specifically exclude maids – normally Filipino or Indonesian – from standard rules that allow all other working foreigners to settle as permanent residents in the territory after seven years of uninterrupted residency.

Malaysia and Singapore, whose courts were also born out of British traditions and might be tempted to follow legal precedents, would hardly have been impressed. But for Najib, such issues are unlikely to have an impact before he stakes his political future on an early poll.

What will matter will be the West Malaysian states of Sabah and Sarawak. Both states have welcomed the repeal of the Internal Securities Act – which allowed for unlimited detention without trial – and laws blamed for curtailing press freedom, along with increased budget spending and more maids.

However, both states are traditionally a combination of Christians, a very moderate form Islam and Buddhism. Mixed marriages were common, apostasy was accommodated, and forced conversions an anathema before the 1970s.

In these states, most resent the enormous encroachment made by militant Islam since then. Sharia Courts, like headscarves and head to toe hijabs, were also unknown before Sabah and Sarawak joined the Malaysian Federation as equal one-third partners with West Malaysia in 1963. This point will figure prominently in the next election.

Of importance is George Kabayan, a 37-year-old native who converted to Isalm becoming Kamaruddin Abdullah. He has just become the first Sabahan to be whipped under Sharia law, receiving five lashes of the cane and a year’s prison sentence for having an affair with an Indonesian woman, Suryati binti Sumarto.

The pair had lived together for some time, had two children, didn’t have the correct paperwork and the religious authorities only acted after neighbours complained to the Sabah Religious Affairs Department.

The story was widely ignored by Malaysia’s mainstream press.

Najib has gone a long way in winning over Malaysia’s moderates, which will stand him in good stead at the next poll. But that could be undone if his United Malays National Organization (UMNO), which has ruled since independence, fails to deal with the festering religious issues of East Malaysia.

Comments (5)...

written by SoundMan, October 26, 2011 22:01:55

Kamaruddin Abdullah the first Sabahan to be whipped under Sharia law, receiving five lashes of the cane and a year’s prison sentence for having an affair with an Indonesian woman, Suryati binti Sumarto, is the despicable part of Islam.

It does not have a place in Sabah & Sarawak. The politicians are lying down and allowing themselves to be walked over by the loony religious fringe in Islam.

Cowards. ...

written by umno is going down, October 26, 2011 19:47:04

In the first place, most malaysian households need maid because it is impossible for working couples to cope with housework when they spend minimum 10 hours a day at work

malaysians need to work so hard not because they like to work hard

but because they need to work to feed the fat cow's appetite

meaning if there is no UMNO = no corruption = malaysians no longer need work their ass off = more free time to be spent on household work = NO NEED FOR MAIDS

this author here seems to be very clueless and shallow minded, probably another cybertrooper in disguise from India...how the fck can u come to a conclusion that more maids = more votes for UMNO ...

written by Wes, October 26, 2011 18:51:45

If getting maids back into Malaysia can turn into votes, there must be something wrong with the country!!! But then and again, we seem to have become a country that only talks about SEX SEX SEX. ...

written by JEBI, October 26, 2011 18:36:56

I have encountered numerous cases where MALAYSIANS treat their servant maids as virtual SLAVES.

Most of these maids work 7days a week and between 15 to 18 hours a day and are being paid a pittance 600 to 800 ringgit per MONTH. Malaysians, please ask yourself whether you would let your own daughter work at such ridiculous low wages and at such long hours.

Maybe this how KARMA works.....Malaysia deservedly being ruled by corrupt and inefficient politicians. ...

written by syd, October 26, 2011 17:40:23

Sabah religious affairs department probably manned by mats from peninsular.

Why is it that only women suffer without maids? Man can do household chores too. We can all eat yeoh's chicken curry with rice or Maggie.

I’M A MALAY AND A MUSLIM....WHY SHOULD I ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH YOU OR YOUR PERKASA...???? YOU ARE NOT THE MODEL PARADIGM OF A MUSLIM AND A MALAY LEADER THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE MUSLIM MALAYSIAN MALAYS ARE LOOKING FOR AS AN ICON..??? WE ARE STILL SEARCHING FOR A NON-MUNAFIK MUSLIM MALAY LEADER AS AN EXEMPLARY MODEL...!!!! SO FAR NONE..........

(The Malaysian Insider) - Perkasa president Datuk Ibrahim Ali has expressed embarrassment over the poor turnout at the Himpunan Sejuta Umat rally, despite the Malay rights movement earlier shrugging off the low attendance.

Only 5,000 people filled the 100,000-seat Shah Alam Stadium where the rally against the alleged Christianisation of Malaysia took place last weekend.

“Even as late at 4pm, there were fewer than 10,000 people... I was embarrassed as a Malay and a Muslim. Where are our Malays?

“But when there’s a conference or an assembly, why this, why that?” Ibrahim said in his winding-up speech at the 2nd Perkasa general assembly here.

The Malay rights leader lamented that Malays were very good at asking for things but were reluctant to put their money where their mouth was when time came for action.

“What is our sacrifice? How far are we willing to go?” he said.

Ibrahim added that if Malays remained too passive in voicing their objections despite being “under attack from within and without”, they would suffer the same fate as Singaporean Malays and Malays in Penang, whom he said were marginalised.

Comments (21)...

written by Apek, October 27, 2011 08:22:14

Dear Ibrahim Ali and the UMNO handlers of PERKASA,

The Malays are not fooled by your baseless claims of apostasy. These manufactured issues of race, religion and raja-raja Melayu are not issues that concern Malays or Malaysians. The real Malays and real Malaysians know that all Malaysians are already protected under the Malaysian constitution. Hence all this manufactured issues and sabre rattling is all syiok sendiri issues created by UMNO in an attempt to stay in power.

However, the Selangor Palace has been foolishly dragged in to attempt to drum up support for this Himpun rally (even a police permit was given) but it has backfired. By playing to UMNO's script, even the Raja-raja Melayu are not an issue anymore. ...

written by casperclc, October 27, 2011 07:02:59

The turnout was as expected and true to form, this Brahim piece of shit shrugs it off, just another day at the office.

Having shouted fire, rape and murder - all that incessant barking - in support of JAIS' action to raid DUMC and having got Sultan Selangor's support to justify the illegality with a decree that implied no fault on JAIS, this 4 maybe 5k turnout is a slap on the face to all involve with the conception of "HIMPUN".

My advise to all trouble makers that act as proxy to UMNO - proceed with your games, the masquerade, threats and all show of petulance BUT puhleeze lah, don't involve the palace next time round.

All events were reported and played out in a very public arena. Through all mediums of communication, this JAIS-DUMC debacle was broadcasted and relayed to an audience far and wide - all because of a little lie or some false claim Muslims' were being converted/coerce/force to (take your pick) embrace the Bible over the Quran.

Such preposterous claim and accusations isn't a recent development and with that in mind, I'm highly surprised the palace choose to weigh in.

Fact of the matter, all the drama by JAIS stems from its own false claim certainly doesn't bolster JAIS' appalling reputation, and with some thought, I don't think JAIS cares either way, only to fulfill UMNO's agenda to cause disruption towards the state govt.

HIMPUN is now done and dusted, Brahim and Hasan Ali now walk off and make don't know. All in we can all sigh big relief while catching a[removed]void(0); glimpse, the level of grassroot support for this sinister UMNO driven scheme.
And talking about grassroot support - many don't remember - couldn't tell even with the widest angled lense, the crowd that showed up for ex-Perak MB *Nizar Jamaaluddin's nomination in Taiping was reported as some 40,000++.

*Suffice to say, Nizar won a handsome win, with anticipation of an even greater victory in his quest towards Istana Kinta to reclaim the state assembly (and prosecute) current illegitimate corrupt BN stooges. And I dare say, that is a promise many of us would like to keep. ..

written by 1Millionhaha, October 27, 2011 06:45:41

I am really surprised that despite his thick skin he can still get embarassed. Most Malays have better things to do in life , such as working hard to make a honest living, than to waste time listening to his rabble. Statistic indicated that (4000/1000000)*100% supported him and his agenda. Wonder how many will vote for him at the next election? ...

written by abu, October 27, 2011 06:05:52

This Babi Hutan is talking shit....!

Most of the Malays are smarter than you. ...

written by JusticeTower, October 27, 2011 05:34:37

Ohhhh... now Ibrahim Ali is playing the sympathy card.... ...

written by aza, October 27, 2011 05:11:04

"Where are our Malays?" Your kind of Malays? ...

written by Lord Jim, October 27, 2011 04:10:15

Probably Malays are more sophisticated these days than the himpun homespun that rally to Ali's war cries and drag queen songkok and red dress pantomines.

Waving keris ain't half wot it used to be, the days when monkeys come on stage to do that in memory of great Chinese hero Hang Tuah is long gone!

Ali can't even get his great hoards to fill just a small section of the stadium, we always hear of these great jenerals without an army.
Reminds me of Khairy who led that huge red-clad army of about 20 gorillas during his counter-attack against the Bersih marchers. That too was another great occasion when the jenerals can't get their figures to work out. the unseen hoards must be those as invisible as the rest of our army mostly of ghost voters and voters with multiple personalities.

Nah! ...

written by Yolo, October 27, 2011 03:29:04

Ibrahim Ali..read about History...read properly...every civilization , culture AND RELIGION of the WORLD has been "TRANSFORMED" in one way or another.....we call it MUTATION in Biology.......so why do you want to RESIST something that you cannot control....In this world there is only ONE thing that is CONSTANT that is CHANGE.......you should CHANGE or else CHANGE will CHANGE YOU!!!!!!!! ...

written by Batang Berjuntai, October 27, 2011 03:25:26

The real Malay, Malaysian malay have got smart.

The "chelup" malay have vested interest and will try to exploit everything under the sun, religion, race, money, etc., for personal gains,

The stupid malay are the UMNO malays, being used by Mamak. ..

written by MalaysianMalaysian, October 27, 2011 03:05:07 Oops! I thought Perkasa claims to have 300,000 members!! Where are they??? How many attended the assembly and Himpun???

Many malays clearly can see you are carrying UMNO hidden agenda!!!! Why should they wasting time to attend???? Many malays were embarrassed with You!!!!! ...

written by bp, October 27, 2011 02:32:07 Same fate as malay singapore?? Haha, u speak BM to the malays here they act as if they cannot hear u clearly and reply with fluent english, you ask them whether they want to migrate to malaysia 99 out of 100 wilk shake their head. Trust me, even singapore malays look down at m'sia malays. ...

written by orangkampung, October 27, 2011 02:30:43

The English has a saying which goes like this, " Man proposes, God disposes".

Ibraheng's proposed Himpun rally was disposed by God through the meagre turnout. Malu lah...mana nak letak muka kau?

Bagui lah terjun masuk kat telaga.

Bangsat punya perkasa! ...

written by educationist, October 27, 2011 02:18:46

Has it occurred to this moronic demon that most of our Malay rakyat are above his kind of rubbish, shit, extremist and racist politiics!! ...

written by Nixcloud, October 27, 2011 02:07:47

hahahaha, and this jagoh kampong said the turnout at Bersih 2.0 was baadddd..... ..

written by Oscar Winner !, October 27, 2011 01:50:13

Shit Shit Shit.. Sorry, what he meant was Najis Najis Najis. BTW nobody realised when he uttered shit 3x, he was uttering Najis 3x.

Where are all the Malays?? Ibrahim Ali feeling enbarrassed?? That's news. Ask your boss Tun Mamak. He shunned Himpun too. It seems he isn't just fighting for ketuanan crap, he is fighting for the Sing malays as well. I didn't know Sing malays have enlisted his help. By so doing, he doesn't realise that he's insinuating the Sing govt, or for that matter, the govt of countries where malays are found, are ill-treating the malays there. Wow, a warrior for malays the world over. Ibrahim Ali, embarrassed ?? Shit shit shit written by Labu labi, October 27, 2011 01:42:22 Poor turn out mean there a more wise malays.

These wise malays can evaluate good and bad things.

One of the bad things is not to associate with Ibrahim Ali. Man with no principle. His guided principle is cash.

Mind you mat sabu or Tok guru nik aziz can pull more voluntary crowd BUT more often pol;ice dont give permit. ...

written by albert zacharias, October 27, 2011 01:18:26

Padan lah muka kau Ibrahim. Malays are not stupid and ignorant like you. Most working class are struggling to put food on the table, money for children to grow up and savings for old age. Religion are for people with nothing to do like you.

Ibrahim Ali... better you balik kampong and tanam jagong lah!!! ...

written by SoundMan, October 27, 2011 01:13:37

Ibrahim Ali said,

fewer than 10,000 people... I was embarrassed as a Malay and a Muslim. Where are our Malays?

Them Malays, through your earlier, 'wolf !, wolf !, wolf!!' shouts, saw through you and in all wisdom gave your stupid show a miss. ...

written by richfyf2000, October 27, 2011 00:52:07

Malay being marginalised. Malay being Christianised, Malay being cheated, Malay being left out from the Economy, Malay not getting 30% share of the Economic pie, Malay being cheated, Malay being scorned. Wow seems like Malay is really a down trodden race. So Malay must be thankful to Ibrahim Ali, "General Perang" and Pembela Bangsa dan UGAMA.

If the is no Ibrahim Ali, Malay will disappear from Tanah Melayu. That seem to be the message from Ibrahin Ali. Well I wonder what the Malay feel towards Ibrahim Ali ( beside the 4000 that attend the Himpun) ...

written by eloofk, October 27, 2011 00:44:59

"Where are our Malays?" asked Katak Ibrahim Ali.

Oh, they were watching football with their beloved PM!!!...

written by NottyMaus, October 27, 2011 00:40:53

Give it up lah, Ibrahim Ali !

Join the majority sane and normal people to re-build Malaysia.

You would do better to emphasize construction, better than just destruction spewing from your mouth, daily.

Dismantle your Perkasa; set up another org. like eg. Union Harmoni or something like that, where everyone can join up.

Without doubt, you'll be able to attract millions ! Don't you think that's better ?