The government will pay RM7.55-billion for 257 APCs, four times more than an originally intended deal made earlier this year.
(Free Malaysia Today) - Under a new agreement, the government will pay RM7.55 billion for 257 armored personnel carriers (APCs), four times more for the same deal made earlier this year.
However, the government claims to have no knowledge of the February deal for 257 Turkish Pars 8×8 APCs, which at the time, cost US$559 million (RM1.749 billion).
This irked DAP’s PJ Utara MP Tony Pua, who launched an attack on the government.
“Minister of Defence Ahmad Zahid Hamidi was there to witness the signing between (Turkish company) FNSS and (Malaysian company) Deftech,” he said.
Speaking to reporters in Parliament, he said the difference in price is so big that a responsible government must ask, “What are the differences that make up the gap (between the two prices)?”
On Oct 18, Pua asked the defence minister in Parliament why the government was willing to spend RM7.8 billion for the 257 APCs.
In a written response, Zahid replied: “The finalised price for the procurement of 257 APCs is RM7.55 billion for a period of seven years from 2011 to 2018, and not RM7.8 billion as said.”
“The Defence Ministry has no information over the 257 APCs by Deftech… with Turkey’s FNSS for the price of US$559 million. Therefore, the question is out of the ministry’s knowledge.”
According to a Jun 3 BAE Systems news release, military equipment manufacturer FNSS signed a US$559-million letter of offer and acceptance from Deftech Sdn Bhd for the design, development and building of the 257 APCs.
Comments (72)...
written by onnetline, October 26, 2011 23:59:27
MA' Sissies ', on a case as BIG as this and with ' inflated ' RM billions, your tails are without a doubt or definitely ' between your legs ' ......... even when it's clearly shown that the Def.Minister is lying to the public through Tony Pua's questioning, right ? Or you're given a piece of the action too ? ..
written by plabeuk, October 25, 2011 23:47:49
Focus on the billions and ignore the cases involving millions that the MSM are distracting you with. Recently, we bought trains for billions where each cost bout RM 40 million - more than some jet fighters. A few years ago, we developed a chip for about 1 billion - that no one is using. ...
written by jack lee, October 25, 2011 22:39:23
That's the reason why Malaysian millionaires have double the past year. ...
written by Y. Thiam, October 25, 2011 16:45:06
Should Pakatan succeed in kicking out UMNO/BN in GE-13, the new government should quickly set up special teams with the power to round up the many past and present UMNO/BN scum, crooks and devils and their accomplices before they can take flight. We must make sure they will not be spared the appropriate, lawful punishment they so deserve, if the law finds them guilty of robbing the country's wealth. To be honest, you don't need to genius to figure out how a country blessed with so much natural resources could be mired in a national debt to the tune of RM407 billion if not for the wholesale, widespread corruption of the UMNO/BM regime, past and prsent! Retribution time - Vote out UMNO/BN! ...
written by flyer168, October 25, 2011 16:00:22
"Under a new agreement, the government will pay RM7.55 billion for 257 armored personnel carriers (APCs), four times more for the same deal made earlier this year."
Hello,
Just who are the Foreign or Neighbouring threats & "Enemies of Ketuanan UMNO/BN"...?
They have already got Bolehland's Leaders by the "Orbs" (read APCO!)
Their real "Enemies" are all within the Ketuanan UNMO itself !
So all that spending just to counter the BERSIH 2 "Free & Fair Elections" demands?
Looks like it is all a Syok Sendiri & the last Kopek $$$ exercise...at the expense of the Taxpayers again !
Shalom. ..
written by guest, October 25, 2011 15:54:02 darn greed knows no boundaries our hard earned money is bluntly "misused" !!!!!! im so darn MAD ...
written by Melayu Boleh, October 25, 2011 14:42:56
What to worry ... we have learned good lesson from Libya (Gaddafi), once we (PKR) take over the government we extradict PM, RM, and all his ministers, including KSUs, DGs and head of dept.
No need to go to court, get M16 (or c4) arrange those busted lanun, penyamun, perompak in few rows .... and you know what to do next .... ...
written by Leon, October 25, 2011 14:20:14
Tony Pua,
How come you dare to question defence ministry? You are not patriotic! Your Nationality can be rebuked !
These 7.5b are R&D fund lah. You never watched Batman's Dark Knight sequel? One of the auditor (is you) questioning why Wayne (Batman) spent so much company fund in R&D, and got intimidated by assistant.
Don't you know Batman has came out many weapons from R&D?
1. Ring can shoot laser, but to cover it with diamond
2. machine gun hide in handbags
3. speed turbo jet can fly to Australia or Europe in shortest time, and can't be detected by radar and media
4. many more... ..
written by Bourne, October 25, 2011 13:23:10
Don't be surprised that the APC's don't come with engines. To install engines another RM 7 billion! When countries are struggling with their daily lives, our corrupt govt spends like there's no tomorrow.
In fact this could be their back up plan... to bankrupt the nation before Pakatan takes over. If that is the case, Pakatan should start thinking about how to recover these stolen monies from off shore accounts and get the cooperation of foreign countries to freeze the crooks assets and also to bring them to face charges. ...
written by jibbidyjibbidyjibb, October 25, 2011 13:16:29
After GE13, all of us will SUFFER!!!: GST, price hike for sugar, electric, toll, water, and all essential goods. Please take note you BN supporters (that kiss the hands of BN reps as if they are gods). Everyone will suffer if Bn continue to rule! ..
written by ta, October 25, 2011 11:59:33
i will not pay for income tax when gov ask why, i will say I DUNNO ! who you think you wanna make fool with ? even kampong folks will not believe that RM30 mil for a lorry if you spend your datuk or nenek money I don't give you a damn care, but you spent the tax money that i paid, that is why i want to know jawab, jangan tak jawab ...
written by casperclc, October 25, 2011 11:38:26
RPK and better half, high time to make a return home.
HIMPUN didn't make it any where near the 1 million mark BUT I'm certain we can now that Zahid Hamidi has given us the impetus. Let's make it a one million man march plus 2 as there is no better occasion.
Time to come home to lead the charge RPK. Give me a time and I'll personally come greet the pair of you at whichever point of entry - by air, sea or jalan kaki.
The failure to react to this latest brazen act of thievery, one might as well hold one's breath, stop inhalling and drop dead. ...
written by RavingRabbits, October 25, 2011 11:36:40
The government must be delusional, scared of its own shadow and creating imaginary enemies, else how would they justify the purchase of subpar overpriced submarines who can't sink and now this APCs who probably can't move cut cost mah, like proton take out things here and there and call it a car.
But i guess its true, they do have imaginary enemies, look no further than the race and religion "war" or wayang kulit to the normal people on the street in our homeland. ...
written by Mohd Kalid, October 25, 2011 11:03:09
Pls tell me how van I stop paying my income tax...is there any way the rakyat can boycott paying income tax as the stupid UMNO led BN government is wasting my money? Any consultants out there ...
written by casperclc, October 25, 2011 10:53:18
257 APC's but WHO exactly are we up against.
Last time I checked, our immediate neighbours that consist of ASEAN member countries are all at peace and the only mention of any battle is probably in trade and commerce. Tell me, who exactly are we up against for the need to spend RM$7 billion++.
Time for a reality check all you mader effin 'chow kai' - starting with Zahid Hamidi with his plea of ignorance - don't know what happened in between the time of first quote and final price struck. It is sheer lunacy all this money being siphon off right under our eyes.
*BTW, this Zahid Hamidi is now a marked man. Whoever that is up against him next contest should have plenty of ammo to prick the conscience of voters. This is not the plunder of millions but a world class astronomical billion.
Washington should take note how this UMNO garbage of a government make off with billions in hot money and laundering the proceeds for sinister purposes. Matter of fact, every single member of UMNO's Supreme Council should warrant the same red flag as potential terrorist. ...
written by Angryman, October 25, 2011 10:11:26
257 APCs to ferry few soldiers? RM7.55 billion is enough to arm all able body man in Malaysia, no need APCs. ...
written by Nawi Bin Abdullah, October 25, 2011 10:04:28
Dear All, Why are we arming ourselves to the teeth? Do we have potential enemies around us? Then why are we buying second-rated (second-hand) hardwares at exorbitant prices? Has anybody asked that simple question; and why the government is unaware of the price difference? Our leaders have gone mad!
Regards,
NBA ...
written by tellitlikeitis, October 25, 2011 08:43:03
just another case of misuse of civilian funds.
they have become arrogant and trying to squeeze every last drop they can get from the coffers.
c***k on this link http://thestar.com.my/news/sto...ec=nation to see more atrocious actions by the BN GOM ...
written by ds, October 25, 2011 08:03:51
It is more like pimped up APC ..
written by Apek, October 25, 2011 07:54:41
Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, you bloody idiot.
How can you even dare say that you do not know what had happened under your ministry. You spent 7.5 BILLION of our hard earned money to buy basic APC's that have no real proven track record. How many homes for the poor could have been built with that money? How many Good teachers paid with that money? How much scientific and cutting edge equipment could have been bought for R&D in our public universities. All you do is to allow 7.5 BILLION get squandered. The Rakyat's mponey is not to be used to support your political base. It is to be used (in your case if you have not already figured that out) for DEFENCE. You bloody idiot. You bloody idiot.
The whole cabinet must resign - if not, this government MUST be held immediately responsible. ..
written by abdullah37, October 25, 2011 07:21:51 RM30,000,000 for each APC? It is like hitting Magnum's 4D Jackpot at it's highest and we are buying 257 units. Just like striking Magnum 4D Jackpot 257 all in a row. No wonder the list of billionaires in Malaysia is ever increasing. Anyway, it is a good thing coz we are now powerful enough to face and fight any nation on earth. Syabas, Malaysia paling BOLEH ..
written by abdullah37, October 25, 2011 07:11:08 Hello, jealous ah? Everyone is doing it, why can't I and why just pick on me? ...
written by casperclc, October 25, 2011 06:05:36 Time for Tan Sri Robert Phang to make a trip to Istanbul and start inquiries. Mind you, Turkey's PM Recep Erdogan is well known as a straight lace kind of guy, one who will not tolerate any mention of corruption.
Let's just wait and see if there are two parties complicit in this enormous mark-up or just our end. It wouldn't be difficult to solicit a response from Erdogan because such a query would also arouse suspicion on Erdogan and members of his cabinet. ...
written by jojo, October 25, 2011 01:04:29
Easy Money, Hey thats the RAKYAT money .What are you trying to do with our money Mr. Zahid ?
Mr. Zahid , please, dont try to fool the Rakyat.We had enough of The fables ot the scorpene submarines that cannot dive, the Eurocopters, now The armoured carriers..and maybe next the UFO !!!!!!!!!!
GOD SAVE OUR COUNTRY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
written by wits0, October 25, 2011 00:48:55
A Hellfire missile carried by a drone or an attack copter like the Apache costs around US$70,000 each.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What...e_Missile
This is good enough to destroy even a battle tank.
So, it takes just US70,000 to destroy a US9.5Million armored personnel carrier of Malusia.
Vely clever boy, Malusia! ...
written by Dntan, October 25, 2011 00:15:25
Please, for the sake of our beloved country and the future of our children, do the right thing in the next GE! ...
written by KC, October 24, 2011 23:35:05
Talk only no use. Let take action to ask people who responsible for the deal to go to 'jail'. Thing will happen again and again if no corrective action taken. Come on. ...
written by Hydra-shok, October 24, 2011 23:20:49
and the plundering goes on and on. Seems Ammenos know they will be loosing big in the next GE13, so why not speed-up their ill gotten wealth and retire peacefully in some paradise island. ...
written by BP Lim, October 24, 2011 22:43:01
Look like Malaysia is going to set up a armour personnel carrier industry. Will it go the same way as proton?
According to link blow from upi.com, German Army bought German-built Boxer Multi-Role Armoured Vehicle cost of round around US$625,000 each when the German army bought 200 in 2006; and US Army paid for its Stryker 8x8 APCs is around US$1.9 million each.
We try to out do the German and US by paying US$ 9.8 million per vehicle.
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_Ne...z1bi1PMubb
According to another article from defense-update.com which commented " that the cost of the new vehicle seems excessively high - about $9.8 million per unit. Malaysian defense officials explained that these figures represent the total life cycle cost of the program, including which usually includes design, development, logistical support and sustainment as well as non-recurring engineering costs and investments associated with the set-up of local production facilities in Malaysia to develop its armored vehicle manufacturing. Yet, even when considering a 250% mark-up to cover such the price tag on the new Malaysian vehicle seem odd."
http://defense-update.com/features/2010/april/malaysian_8x8_deftech_21042010.html .
written by duuude, October 24, 2011 22:21:12 RM 7,550,000,000 / 257 APCs = RM 29,377,431.91 per APC
Approximately 6mil Euros, 5mil GBP or 10mil USD per APC.
Seems a bit expensive for what are basically armored cars.
As a very basic comparison, the US Army's Stryker AFV costs $3.8 million
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryker ) and their Bradley AFV costs $3.166M ( http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m2.htm )
Makes me wonder what are the fantastic add-ons being bundled with our AFVs! ...
written by mob1900, October 24, 2011 22:16:02
The Real Reason Why We Can't Question Our Military Contracts!
Turns out these are the ‘Tricked-Out’ options our wise Def. Ministry conveniently forgot to tell us.
Car audio + boom2x speaker sets are separate options. Choices like 'Feng-Tau' and 'EmCit-EmCit-EmCit' packages are available for purchase. ..
written by watsasadday, October 24, 2011 21:58:13
More than 2 mil per APC? Wow! Just how many carrier they need to carry their loots!!!!
No tender...all wishy washy.... all under table... all dubious inflated commission.... all within the corrupted circles....
Great news.... Allowing them to get 2mil carrier to cart their loots!!!! ...
written by Zigger, October 24, 2011 21:45:28
UMNO use diversion tactics like sex videos and religious issues to cover up their stealing from the taxpayers monies. They dipped their fingers into the treasuries of the taxpayers and the taxpayers are mesmerised by the sex videos and religious issues. ...
written by sandokan, October 24, 2011 21:36:56
Lets stop the deal. Get the company name and get the international press to find out the actuall price tag. ...
written by Eskay345, October 24, 2011 21:23:08
GOD, Please help us. When will the plundering by the Amenos stop?
These Ameno thieves are taking turns raiding the Treasury through military procurements of jet-planes, submarines and now the APCs.
They advise the rakyat to tighten belts but they plunder the nations by the billions.
The Defence Minister denied knowledge of the particular deal even though he was present as a witness. ...... I bet his ministry DG and his Secretary-General will deny ever having read the S&P Contracts before the documents were sent for signing....... Blaardy.. licenced thieves. ...
written by Minister of Blind, Deaf & Dumb., October 24, 2011 21:13:20
Aiyah! Remember Perimaker/Scorpene or not. It's the same con. FNSS, the Turkey arms manufacturer build and sell to Deftech SDN. BHD. 257 APC for RM 1,749B [USD. 559]. Then Deftech take and sell to MINDEF for RM 7.55B. UNTUNG [ 7.55 - 1.749 ] 5.801 BILLION RINGGIT ONLY. Then Minister for The Fence, Zahid Pencuri, looks heaven ward, and rolls his eyes and says 'I donno. Got meh ?' So after paying off the Translator/Mistress ala Altantuya,[they learn their lesson already.pay! dont blow up.] they got money to buy rings, birkin bags etc. The end. ...... oh! I forgot. They told chua soi lek to shut the F**k up when he told them not to overspend. ...
written by JahitGadaffi, October 24, 2011 21:04:49
Jahit, Mr.John Kelly dan Mr.Nail Kurt sudah announce lah! you tak beritahu mereka you mahu markup 4 kali ganda ke??? kaang nak cover camana???http://www.trdefence.com/2011/...-8x8-apcs/ ..
written by selangor dude, October 24, 2011 20:46:59
They need to siphon off that much money to finance GE 13 or park the excess abroad in case BN fails in GE13. They will come up with more contracts to legitimise looting from the govt coffers . This will be evident soon. ...
written by taken1978, October 24, 2011 20:31:57
BAE Systems Inc.’s FNSS Joint Venture Receives $559 Million Award from DEFTECH to Provide AV-8 Vehicles for the Malaysian Armed Forces03 Jun 2011
Ref. 105/2011
ARLINGTON, Virginia – FNSS of Turkey, a joint venture between BAE Systems, Inc. and Nurol Holding of Turkey, has received and signed a $559 million letter of offer and acceptance (LOA) from DEFTECH of Malaysia for the design, development and manufacture of 257 DEFTECH AV-8 8x8 wheeled armored vehicles and Integrated Logistics Support for the Malaysian Armed Forces.
http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/autoGen_11153155557.html ...
written by onnetline, October 24, 2011 20:29:04
These are what the corrupted ARMNOs SOBs do best ........... robbing and stealing from the tax payers or country's coffers. Sial ! ...
written by moyang ngkau, October 24, 2011 20:24:36
no point bising bising..you shout, scream like hell nobody cares. These corrupted Bastard mission stay as minister is to get as much as he can and then got away and live happily ever after. Only one way to stop them is ABU.in GE 13.....kill all the "BASTARD"
written by JEFFLIM118, October 24, 2011 20:21:38
This is really the work of F**king bastards. Knowing very well they are facing the risk of losing Putrajaya, they sign the contract till 2018 inorder to pocket whatever possibly they can take in advance.
There is no better word to describe these crooks but except to brand them real BASTURDS BASTURDS BASTURDS. ...
written by Hanuman@, October 24, 2011 20:20:04
What are the freaking senate doing? Earning their monthly wages without moving their asses to question defence spending. ...
written by Pro arte, October 24, 2011 20:18:15
The French seem to be favoured in multi billion dollar defence contracts these days. If the price has balloon by 400% one can only imagine the massive amounts paid in bribes to the French as well as Najib's proxies.
Can the French afford to implicate Najib in the murder of Altantunya? Will the impeding trial be a whitewash in order to keep those billion dollar contract coming? Remains to be seen.
I am not hopeful. ...
written by whlau, October 24, 2011 20:15:59
This is good fodder for the opposition when election time comes. At all their ceramahs, they should highlight all the sickening excesses that the present ruling gomen is condoning and let everyone, especially the kampong folks know about this. Make a comparison between their lifestyles and those whose names are involved in all the dubious deals that they are privy to. Make a big issue out of this because this has been the norm every each year that the ruling gomen rules this country. And we are real sick of this! At the way this is happening, bankruptcy of the country is not too far away if nothing is been done to nip it in the butt. ..
written by temenggong, October 24, 2011 20:07:37
We'd like to know where did the 'original' price of $559 million come from, before we can comment further.
It is simply not possible to buy an armoured car at $2.17 million a piece, and without any facilities and parts. ...written by c**tnineh, October 24, 2011 20:06:48
When will all Malaysians wake up from their slumber to remove this band of thieving scumbags from power??? This band of thieving scumbags are pilfering our national coffers till they are empty and yet we remain apathetic and blissful! Sigh! ...
written by Hariharan, October 24, 2011 20:01:50
Can anybody tell us is the 257 APC cars are very necessasity for our army? ...
written by Osama, October 24, 2011 19:56:41
No other solutions, other than shoot or hang the thiefs. they are the country sampah masyarakat ...
written by alfred ho, October 24, 2011 19:55:18
the government of the day is plundering the country's financial resources. it is criminal to waste so much of the country's finance on expensive armaments. which country in their right mind would want to invade malaysia. alfred ho ..
written by Desertbug, October 24, 2011 19:50:49
Wah, I'm impressed by Malaysia's capability to spend when the global economy is such a jittery state. Maybe, the Gomen knows something we don't !
Dumb-assed Rakyat noises can be abated by dishing out RM500.....no worries. Dumber-assed rakyat voted BN in the last time. So what if BN lose in the next, BN already got the honey pot to themselves right now !
Dumb assed rakyat ! ...
written by Gambitt, October 24, 2011 19:43:52
i am feeling sick in the stomach.....excuse me i need to vomit blood ...
written by SpicaTwo, October 24, 2011 19:41:11
sheer bastardly to rob like this. we shud internationalise this issue and spread the names and pictures of that Zahidi and Najib as robbers of the nation so that they cannot escape when the time eventually comes with GE 13. ...
written by umno is going down, October 24, 2011 19:29:47
so they know they are going to lose GE13
just b4 they lose GE 13 and run to other countries
they want to suck the rakyat dry
even if it means selling the rakyat's soul
these people are worse than robbers
robbers can only steal all your money u have
but these people will steal not only your money, but your children's money and future, even if they are not born yet
how? they borrow heavy debts in the rakyat's name and use for themselves
and who needs to pay them? definitely this generation of rakyat wont be able to pay off RM 407b debt
who pay them? our future generations, its crazy when u think about it, very innocent children who is not even borne yet already got the word DEBT stapled on their head
written by smallfly, October 24, 2011 19:28:38
That's what we call precious APCs, must be supplied from some famous jeweler in NY. .
written by cheekhiaw, October 24, 2011 19:12:16
Do you all know how many thieves those Advanced Pencuri Carriers need to carry or not? ...
written by Revolution, October 24, 2011 18:52:22
While we fight for religious or sexual matters they created , they stole us as much as they can ...
Devils in disguise ... ...
written by tanstaafl, October 24, 2011 18:37:57
And here we were thinking the Scorpene deal was obscene .... who is going to die to cover up this particular deal? ...
written by zonefinder, October 24, 2011 18:35:59
Cost to DRB Hicom is Rgt 6.8m so charge to Mindef for service maintenance is Rgt 23m...each! Might as well buy another new APC to replace ...no need to repair. I bet most of these 23 m goes to the pockets of the UMNO cronies. I also want to join UMNO!! ...
written by Malay Gentile, October 24, 2011 18:32:20
In today's world the arms trade is big business ..... ...
written by klsar1, October 24, 2011 18:30:59
GOVERNMENT IS STEALING MY TAX MONEY !! I WANT REFUND !! ...
written by True Malaysian, October 24, 2011 18:26:32
the APC made of gold? ...
written by SamYap, October 24, 2011 18:26:10
I feel sick! Really, I am truly nauseated when I read the first few lines.
That is a helluva lot of juice, man! Does anyone even begin to realize what it could have done for developing our country? Upgrading our educational institutions and healthcare?
Do the grass roots supporters of UMNO, MCA, MIC and Gerakan even knows what it could have been used for their children? Their friends' children? Their neighbour's children?
Why do we so many APCs? Are we expecting hostilities to break out within a year or so? And who are the enemies, Israel? Singapore? Thailand? Philipines? Vietnam? Communist or is it capitalist China? maybe Australia?
Bastards! Bastards! ...
written by zonefinder, October 24, 2011 18:16:21
People, we are talking about 7,550 million ringgit here. Almost rgt 30 million for each APC. That means each APC is equivalent to 600 units of Perodua Myvis or 90 units of BMW 5 Series!! Might as well let our soldiers drive a BMW each. The enemies will want to join us! It doesn't make sense!! ..
written by Bourne, October 24, 2011 18:11:15
This is exactly what we should be focusing on instead of OWC, religion, gutter politics and trivial issues. This is the sort of issues if left unchecked will certainly bankrupt the nation.
Time and again we have seen the BN govt paying inflated prices for contracts etc and most of it is either defence or construction as these has the best cover for inflating costs. I have worked for construction companies in the past and its so easy to disguise these kickbacks. ...
written by bumiputar, October 24, 2011 18:04:15
motherfcukers!!!!!
Now I cannot take out all my saving in EPF, by the time i can take, it may valued at Indon level.... FCUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
Mampoi la...ini kali. ..
written by richfyf2000, October 24, 2011 17:47:23
257 APC at 7.5 Billion?? That's RM 30 Million each. No wonder can give free Diamond Ring to FLOM. ..
written by bumiputar, October 24, 2011 17:44:44 Those F**king be-end supporters, still sleeping???
Soon when you wake up, you/and your son will have to work as construction worker and your wife/daugther as maid in indon oredi...do you still think this is fun? ...
written by AndyL, October 24, 2011 17:42:17
Would UMNO supporters care about billions...and billions...being siphoned off via few time inflated costs???
....still being so grateful to UMNO???? ...
written by supps, October 24, 2011 17:31:29
OMG! Please folks, do not be distracted by fear of hudud in the future. Let's go ABU because of the rampant plundering of public money that is taking place now. Let's all spread the word to friends and relatives. Let corruption become a talking point. ...
written by melayu mudah lupa, October 24, 2011 17:30:12
Hurrah hurrah selamat Hari Diwali, Now we pesta dan samun pakai Tabung Negara sampai ke syurga dan bisa jumpa anak anak dara. I am Anak Zorro Hero so i am now in charge of all the members of Ali Baba Bujang Lapuk and I am ready to sapu all your belongings from NOW UNTIL 2MORO.
Hurrah hurrah remember my name Anak Zorro Hero. ...
written by syd, October 24, 2011 17:20:33
It's a gift from Malaysia to Yemen.
Syed mokhtar's deal is always similar to that of the ones made with the forty thieves.
You name it, whether it is dredging, airports, mrt's, he is always thinking of a way to rob and rape.
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