(The Star) - Controversial PAS leader Datuk Dr Hasan Ali joined a rare raid on drinking spots at Mutiara Damansara and Petaling Jaya, which saw the arrest of 41 Muslims.
Among those nabbed in Ops Mungkar were 18 people who were caught taking alcohol, an offence under Selangor's syariah law.
They include six women.
Dr Hasan said the Selangor Islamic Affairs Department (Jais) has strong evidence to charge them for alcohol consumption under the Syariah Criminal Enactment 1995, which provides for a jail term of up to two years and a fine of not more than RM3,000, or both.
Unlike other states, Selangor does not whip offenders caught drinking alcohol.
Dr Hasan said the other 23 pub goers caught in the raid, including 13 women, would be required to attend counselling sessions.
“They will have to give their statements on Jan 11 and 12, before Jais fixes the dates for counselling,” he said at the Jais office here yesterday.
He said the raiding party, which included the Bukit Aman police, was led by Jais director Datuk Marzuki Hussin following a tip-off. Those arrested were aged between 18 and 58.
“We could see there was entertainment going on and the drinking (of alcohol),” said Dr Hasan, who is in charge of Islamic affairs in the state executive council.
He refuted suggestions that the operation was connected to the recent controversies surrounding him.
Dr Hasan, the former Selangor PAS commissioner, is embroiled in a feud with the leadership over the party's policy switch from an Islamic state agenda to a welfare state.
In August, he defended the Jais checks on the Damansara Utama Methodist Church and had also locked horns with the state over the sale of alcoholic beverages at convenience stores and the mushrooming of massage centres.
Comments (16)...
written by Chavin, January 01, 2012 14:56:48
This fool really saboing Pakatan plan of retaining Selangor. ...
written by arazak, January 01, 2012 14:11:20
Hello Hassan,
Please also raid UMNO's office throughout the country. Tell me Hassan. . ., isn't corruption and looting the peoples' money is more heinous crime than some poor souls having drinking binge?
If you want to be "Mat Sekodeng", then resign from your ADUN's post! ...
written by syd, January 01, 2012 14:10:01
we have to thank the sultzn of selangor for creating and encouraging this kind of raid.
next time, kindly raid hard rock cafe premises and conord hotel. ..
written by durianbesar, January 01, 2012 14:00:06
someone should fcuk this fcuker up.... very badly like kicking onto his balls very very hard....
people are enjoying and having some clean fun what's the issue about some people celebrating at a pub....
this nonsense from Jais or Thaik have to STOP.... put a contract on this mother fcuking assshole...... ...
written by SiHangChai, January 01, 2012 13:16:33
Big deal, Hasan Ali. Luckily I was not there if not, I will do a Khir Toyo and present you a penyapu to clean your own bloody and sickening atitude. Why go and catch these Muslims? Why not you go and catch all those UMNO ministers who drinks and womanising? I'm sure you know who are these ministers! ...
written by Liberian, January 01, 2012 13:12:23
Hassan Ali already know that PAS will not offer him any seat next GE so he is now undergoing a short course with Jais ! I have attended many High Society partis held by our country leaders where alcohol drinks flows! Once a Raja Muda held his birthday bash in one of the famous hill station. Cold drinks (non alcohol) was served until the 'do a ' ceremony after that the Kadi was sent home by the Raja Muda ADCs. Then alcoholic drinks were served! There was no Hassan Ali and if he interrupt , he would get slap! ...
written by astroace, January 01, 2012 12:29:42
PAS should get rid of hassan ali for good. He is trying to show that PAS is an extremist party as compared to umno and instigate peoples' anger towards Selangor government. Why he is there during the raid is anybody's guest. He represent PAS as a councillor and jais is not under the Selangor government control anymore.
Every religion is good and is personal, but when one practice extremism to others it becomes harmful to that religion. Everything happens for a reason. ...
written by NottyMaus, January 01, 2012 11:09:15
Durians, when very ripened, also have a trace of alcohol in the durian flesh, adding to the fine taste.
Haram-lah, is the king of fruit to the malays because of the alcohol content; yet malays indulge in durian eating !
Ptui ! Hyppopotamuskritters ! ..
written by vhari, January 01, 2012 10:52:04
Tapai ,favourite dish,has alcohol(arak)in it. ...
written by Merdeka, January 01, 2012 10:45:09
Hasan Ali, why don't you also go after those who are corrupted and bribery and abused of power? ...
written by fireduck, January 01, 2012 10:43:00
Political career-wise, this guy's is as good as over. He will probably even lose his deposit if he contest. Everyone has a chink in the armour .... accounting guys, banking employees, IT personnel .... if you can do a background search on this guy's activities & sources of income. Check on his history, his younger days, even his teenage years .... .
written by ZamZamAlaKazam, January 01, 2012 10:32:39
...Hasan, please look into some parties held or attended by royalties too. Uh-huh, you are not invited are you? I thought you are their champion... .
written by jokersland, January 01, 2012 10:02:21
The new chosen one Taliban of Bolehland. Hassan Ali, since you are holier-than thou, I dare you to cast the first stone if you have not sinned before. ...
written by SoundMan, January 01, 2012 09:07:23
Hassan Ali beloved of his god ! A most stupid exercise for his god...cheeeeze ! PAS best rid us all of this type of hypocrite....i recall a certain Malaysian Ambassador to the USA going beyond a quiet drink..hehehehehehe ! ...
written by malchindian, January 01, 2012 08:32:46
New job description - head of jais? ...
written by NottyMaus, January 01, 2012 08:23:09
Happy Kafir New Year, oh Hasan Ali, god of malaysia !
Hope your superior god endows you with a little bit more grey matter, this 2012 !
Dr Ismail Aby Jamal
Born in Batu 10, Kg Lubok Bandan, Jementah, Segamat, Johor
Saturday, December 31, 2011
Why legalise the sale of alcohol in Malaysia in the first place? Could it because the tax revenue is so lucrative for the Government not to collect? Just wonder where the Government park this income under the National GDP? Even if the Muslims are caught drinking alcohol in public places, it is actually the total failure of JAIS to “dakwah” those Muslims right from the beginning of their religious education. By the way, what kind of religious education system that we have currently? Isn't corruption and looting the peoples' money is more heinous crime than some poor souls having alcohol drinks that are easily available anywhere in Malaysia?
If MCA leadership is led by a scandal-tainted and immoral president, Dr Chua Soi Lek........ What about UMNO leadership, then?
Two time bombs have exploded in the MCA in the past two days
By Jackson Ng, Retired Journalist
TWO time bombs have exploded in the MCA in the past two days but the mainstream media, especially MCA’s mouthpiece, The Star, has down played the news.
About 1,000 MCA members from Penang and Johor have resigned en bloc and they cite the loss of confidence in the party leadership as their reason for quitting.
The resignations are only the tip of the iceberg and it signals the beginning of the imploding of Barisan Nasional (BN)’s second largest component party.
According to a few of those who quit but did not want to be named, more MCA members nationwide are expected to quit in the run-up to the next general election.
The mainstream media are down playing the news because it is a major blow for the MCA and BN’s preparations for the general election widely expected to be called by Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak in February or March.
Those who quit say they had lost confidence in the MCA leadership because it is led by a scandal-tainted and immoral president, Dr Chua Soi Lek.
“Whenever he speaks on any issue, it backfires and is a laughing stock of the people or grassroots. This is because Chua is in no position to talk about issues on morality and integrity.
“We cannot continue to be associated with such a leader and his cronies who are only looking after their own interest and positions,” said a former MCA member who is known to this writer.
Citing recent events and issues, the former member said: “It is embarrassing to MCA for Chua to talk about freedom of the press and freedom of speech.
“What is he talking about when the first thing he (Chua) did when he won the presidency by fluke was to place The Star directly under the control of the party.
“The paper is now under the overall control of a panel that includes his son (Tee Yong) as a key member. He also appointed his son in government positions.
“The MCA leadership is now led by a man who is morally tainted and one who practices nepotism and cronyism to turn the party into his family’s empire,” he added.
Another former member added: “Just watch how MCA implodes in the run-up to the 13th General Election. At least 30 per cent of its members will eventually abandon the party by polling day.”
In another development, party insiders say Selangor MCA is in shambles following a fallout between Chua and state MCA chief Donald Lim Siang Chai.
As the state chief, Lim does not even have the say to decide which seat to contest.
Lim is said to be eyeing the Selayang parliamentary seat but Chua already has someone else in mind – possibly a woman candidate.
What is telling is that Lim does not even have the confidence to try and wrest back his former seat - PJ Selatan – where he was beaten by PKR’s Hee Loy Sian by 5,706 votes in 2008.
Party insiders say the backdoor Deputy Finance Minister Senator is now desperate and is manoeuvring to get what he wants.
The insiders say it would be most interesting to see how severely Selangor MCA would be split by the Chua-Lim tussle for control of the state.
Comments (9)...
written by Renegade, January 01, 2012 00:47:09
MCA members had planted explosives into the party that they were hoping to build when they accepted CSL as their president. Therefore it comes as no surprise when you said that MCA is imploding. How can a President (who admitted that he was the person caught with his pants down) earn respect from the Chinese community (at least) that he claims to be representing through the party? How do you expect the women folks to vote for the party that supports such an obnoxious character? A vote for the party would mean supporting someone who would not hesitate to have sex with another woman behind his wife's back. If he can double-cross his wife who is his life partner, who else can he not double-cross? Just food for your thought: Can you get good apples if you toss a good apple into a barrel of bad apples? Similarly, can you change a bad apple into a good one if you throw a bad apple into a barrel of good apples? Perhaps this will help to answer what we expect of BN component parties. ...
written by uxzee, December 31, 2011 21:35:05
In MCA you get leaders who are ever willing to kow tow to UMNO and readily display and accept that they are not equal citizens of the country. These MCA leaders are scums who sell off the rights and dignity of the Chinese community for their own personal gains. There is no more hope for the Chinese community to still depend on MCA. MCA's shelf life is over. DAP or PKR will be a more viable option for the Chinese in this age. ...
written by malchindian, December 31, 2011 10:21:15
The reality is, MCA will not be annihilated. This is just the shake down. Porn star will be replaced as soon as a "winnable" successor is found. Insiders say the warlords and godfathers have been burning the midnight oil scrapping the bottom of the barrel for a redeemer.
That's why pornstar junior is making lots of noise with his "xcuse me, over here! look at me! remember me?" and OTK has dug in his heels to mind his constituency of Pandan. Now watch how the Godfathers work to save the party.
In the meantime I savour my coffee awaiting news of more exoduses from MCA . ...
written by vhari, December 31, 2011 07:11:37
I predict MCA,Gerakan,MIC,PPP will wiped out. ...
written by NSTPravda, December 31, 2011 06:34:15
Your lies about the death of MCA is wholly and mainly exaggerated and somewhat premature. Let us reiterate from our reliable inside source of the highest level of UMNO the following:
1. Even if all the pendatangs cina-kui kafir infidels resign (unlikely, as long as some of the infidels have their snouts in the UMNO gravy train), MCA will live on because UMNO have the confidence that it will live on and to continue finance them.
2. Don't believe this "tip of the ice berg" rumours... who in our beloved nation has seen any ice-bergs in the straits of Melaka or the South China (Ugh!) Sea (soon to be named "Laut UMNO" or better still "Laut C4 Ro$mak"). So this is a figment of imagination of some anti-national, kafir elements.
3. For the 1000s that's supposed to have resigned, we can replace them with Ailah-fearing non-pork eating clones of Rithaudeen Tee or Frogg Hee... the best MCA support tax money can buy, courtesy of UMNO.
So, al-tantuyalah! Semua-nya OK... Remember you read these here first, the best Jakim halal (pending) certified, Good-news New Media that any ringgit can buy. Dollar akbar! ...
written by An Old Man, December 31, 2011 06:18:19
Half of the MCA members are STUPID; hence Chua's resurrection as its president. Chinese history is replete with cases of mandarins and generals of dubious character holding sway while true patriots rotting away in jail or far-flung outposts! Chinese NEVER learn! Despite all the Sun-Tze stuff they talk about, they hardly know what is STRATEGY. Sun-Tze was a master of DECEPTIONS, not a strategist!!!
Any chap who claims he can read the character of a person by looking at the subject's face will tell you Chua is. No-good fellow. Take a look at his images more closely, doesn't he looks like Kim Jong-il - not in looks but in demeanours???
Many who joined MCA did have good intentions. But no sooner they will get sucked in by the lip-service, self-serving and outright corrupt culture there. I had had a first-hand experience. I quit within a month after seeing the so-called leaders showing their true colours after a hearty meal or ome drinks! ..
written by fireduck, December 31, 2011 01:53:55
MCA is already a dead party -- a stillborn in the next GE. ...
written by albert zacharias, December 31, 2011 01:38:20
MCA head is a soiled leg walking on clean marble in the Queen's chamber ....boleh kah???? MCA head, please go and clean up yourself before you try be chief of the Chinese. Maybe you want to be the chief of the mamaks? Better still be the chief of p**imaks ...
written by hplooi, December 30, 2011 22:12:48
just like wu-san-gui the mca is culpable for the crimes committed against malaysian chinese. from the steady erosion of citizen rights to the more serious mismanagement of tax resources meant to uplift the bumiputras. to rub salt into wound, we are constantly reminded that we have NO say in the country and that we are somehow responsible for the (so-called) economic-challenged position of the bumiputras inspite of the fact that 90% of the nation's resources are channeled towards the bumiputras. it wouldn't be so bad if at least this 'handicap' has really been used fairly to uplift the bumiputras.
dato' donald is a good old time friend (he was my witness when I sign up with my wife at the registrar of marriage in the 80s). however if he ever speak to me on politics, i will just 'niu-ni' (bird-you) 10x.
burns me up every time mca try to be sanctimonious.
By Jackson Ng, Retired Journalist
TWO time bombs have exploded in the MCA in the past two days but the mainstream media, especially MCA’s mouthpiece, The Star, has down played the news.
About 1,000 MCA members from Penang and Johor have resigned en bloc and they cite the loss of confidence in the party leadership as their reason for quitting.
The resignations are only the tip of the iceberg and it signals the beginning of the imploding of Barisan Nasional (BN)’s second largest component party.
According to a few of those who quit but did not want to be named, more MCA members nationwide are expected to quit in the run-up to the next general election.
The mainstream media are down playing the news because it is a major blow for the MCA and BN’s preparations for the general election widely expected to be called by Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak in February or March.
Those who quit say they had lost confidence in the MCA leadership because it is led by a scandal-tainted and immoral president, Dr Chua Soi Lek.
“Whenever he speaks on any issue, it backfires and is a laughing stock of the people or grassroots. This is because Chua is in no position to talk about issues on morality and integrity.
“We cannot continue to be associated with such a leader and his cronies who are only looking after their own interest and positions,” said a former MCA member who is known to this writer.
Citing recent events and issues, the former member said: “It is embarrassing to MCA for Chua to talk about freedom of the press and freedom of speech.
“What is he talking about when the first thing he (Chua) did when he won the presidency by fluke was to place The Star directly under the control of the party.
“The paper is now under the overall control of a panel that includes his son (Tee Yong) as a key member. He also appointed his son in government positions.
“The MCA leadership is now led by a man who is morally tainted and one who practices nepotism and cronyism to turn the party into his family’s empire,” he added.
Another former member added: “Just watch how MCA implodes in the run-up to the 13th General Election. At least 30 per cent of its members will eventually abandon the party by polling day.”
In another development, party insiders say Selangor MCA is in shambles following a fallout between Chua and state MCA chief Donald Lim Siang Chai.
As the state chief, Lim does not even have the say to decide which seat to contest.
Lim is said to be eyeing the Selayang parliamentary seat but Chua already has someone else in mind – possibly a woman candidate.
What is telling is that Lim does not even have the confidence to try and wrest back his former seat - PJ Selatan – where he was beaten by PKR’s Hee Loy Sian by 5,706 votes in 2008.
Party insiders say the backdoor Deputy Finance Minister Senator is now desperate and is manoeuvring to get what he wants.
The insiders say it would be most interesting to see how severely Selangor MCA would be split by the Chua-Lim tussle for control of the state.
Comments (9)...
written by Renegade, January 01, 2012 00:47:09
MCA members had planted explosives into the party that they were hoping to build when they accepted CSL as their president. Therefore it comes as no surprise when you said that MCA is imploding. How can a President (who admitted that he was the person caught with his pants down) earn respect from the Chinese community (at least) that he claims to be representing through the party? How do you expect the women folks to vote for the party that supports such an obnoxious character? A vote for the party would mean supporting someone who would not hesitate to have sex with another woman behind his wife's back. If he can double-cross his wife who is his life partner, who else can he not double-cross? Just food for your thought: Can you get good apples if you toss a good apple into a barrel of bad apples? Similarly, can you change a bad apple into a good one if you throw a bad apple into a barrel of good apples? Perhaps this will help to answer what we expect of BN component parties. ...
written by uxzee, December 31, 2011 21:35:05
In MCA you get leaders who are ever willing to kow tow to UMNO and readily display and accept that they are not equal citizens of the country. These MCA leaders are scums who sell off the rights and dignity of the Chinese community for their own personal gains. There is no more hope for the Chinese community to still depend on MCA. MCA's shelf life is over. DAP or PKR will be a more viable option for the Chinese in this age. ...
written by malchindian, December 31, 2011 10:21:15
The reality is, MCA will not be annihilated. This is just the shake down. Porn star will be replaced as soon as a "winnable" successor is found. Insiders say the warlords and godfathers have been burning the midnight oil scrapping the bottom of the barrel for a redeemer.
That's why pornstar junior is making lots of noise with his "xcuse me, over here! look at me! remember me?" and OTK has dug in his heels to mind his constituency of Pandan. Now watch how the Godfathers work to save the party.
In the meantime I savour my coffee awaiting news of more exoduses from MCA . ...
written by vhari, December 31, 2011 07:11:37
I predict MCA,Gerakan,MIC,PPP will wiped out. ...
written by NSTPravda, December 31, 2011 06:34:15
Your lies about the death of MCA is wholly and mainly exaggerated and somewhat premature. Let us reiterate from our reliable inside source of the highest level of UMNO the following:
1. Even if all the pendatangs cina-kui kafir infidels resign (unlikely, as long as some of the infidels have their snouts in the UMNO gravy train), MCA will live on because UMNO have the confidence that it will live on and to continue finance them.
2. Don't believe this "tip of the ice berg" rumours... who in our beloved nation has seen any ice-bergs in the straits of Melaka or the South China (Ugh!) Sea (soon to be named "Laut UMNO" or better still "Laut C4 Ro$mak"). So this is a figment of imagination of some anti-national, kafir elements.
3. For the 1000s that's supposed to have resigned, we can replace them with Ailah-fearing non-pork eating clones of Rithaudeen Tee or Frogg Hee... the best MCA support tax money can buy, courtesy of UMNO.
So, al-tantuyalah! Semua-nya OK... Remember you read these here first, the best Jakim halal (pending) certified, Good-news New Media that any ringgit can buy. Dollar akbar! ...
written by An Old Man, December 31, 2011 06:18:19
Half of the MCA members are STUPID; hence Chua's resurrection as its president. Chinese history is replete with cases of mandarins and generals of dubious character holding sway while true patriots rotting away in jail or far-flung outposts! Chinese NEVER learn! Despite all the Sun-Tze stuff they talk about, they hardly know what is STRATEGY. Sun-Tze was a master of DECEPTIONS, not a strategist!!!
Any chap who claims he can read the character of a person by looking at the subject's face will tell you Chua is. No-good fellow. Take a look at his images more closely, doesn't he looks like Kim Jong-il - not in looks but in demeanours???
Many who joined MCA did have good intentions. But no sooner they will get sucked in by the lip-service, self-serving and outright corrupt culture there. I had had a first-hand experience. I quit within a month after seeing the so-called leaders showing their true colours after a hearty meal or ome drinks! ..
written by fireduck, December 31, 2011 01:53:55
MCA is already a dead party -- a stillborn in the next GE. ...
written by albert zacharias, December 31, 2011 01:38:20
MCA head is a soiled leg walking on clean marble in the Queen's chamber ....boleh kah???? MCA head, please go and clean up yourself before you try be chief of the Chinese. Maybe you want to be the chief of the mamaks? Better still be the chief of p**imaks ...
written by hplooi, December 30, 2011 22:12:48
just like wu-san-gui the mca is culpable for the crimes committed against malaysian chinese. from the steady erosion of citizen rights to the more serious mismanagement of tax resources meant to uplift the bumiputras. to rub salt into wound, we are constantly reminded that we have NO say in the country and that we are somehow responsible for the (so-called) economic-challenged position of the bumiputras inspite of the fact that 90% of the nation's resources are channeled towards the bumiputras. it wouldn't be so bad if at least this 'handicap' has really been used fairly to uplift the bumiputras.
dato' donald is a good old time friend (he was my witness when I sign up with my wife at the registrar of marriage in the 80s). however if he ever speak to me on politics, i will just 'niu-ni' (bird-you) 10x.
burns me up every time mca try to be sanctimonious.
PM Najib is being advised by some of the "best" strategists from the States. These are of the McKinsey or Boston Consulting group types of young boys and girls. They only know one model: The end justifies the means. Machiavelli is their God........
STEADYAKU47
UMNO is full of failed leaders. More of their first tier leaders have, at one time or another, left UMNO than have stayed. Tunku, Hussein Onn, Mahathir, Tengku Razaleigh, Musa Hitam, Anwar Ibrahim and maybe Mahathir again if he does not have his way in the run up to the 13th general elections. Some have done so out of spite, some out of a sense of moral responsibility while some chose to do politics outside UMNO. I look at Najib today and see a man out of his depth in a job he is ill equipped to handle.
He is clearly not a leader able to put two separate pieces of information together in his head – what more process the numerous inputs coming in from all angles and sources – and digest them before making the necessary decisions that would affect his party, his people and his country.
It is tragic for us and our country that this incompetent leader is advised by people whose vested interest overwhelms all other considerations. UMNO is obsessed with one thing and one thing only – how to hang on to power. There is no competent strategy of what to do with the malaise that has now overtaken our country because of this obsession for power over these last 50 years. No competent strategy of how to move on after the 13th general election. These UMNO goons have no plans beyond taking back power in the 13th general election. It would seem that should power be theirs again after the 13th general election it would be back to the orgy of plundering and pillaging of our country wealth and resources!
Who advises Najib? Mahathir? The same Mahathir that wants his so called ‘legacy’ wreck asunder by Pak Lah to now be ‘protected’ by Najib? What legacy? Abuses and incompetence would more appropriately describe the 20 over years of Mahathir’s rule. This same Mahathir has already fast tracked his son into Cabinet! Now he stands poised to ‘negotiate’ with Najib his support for Najib in the coming 13th general election in return for what? The crooked bridge in Johore? A minister ship for his son? The protection of his crony business interest because without the OSA he would be exposed as having betrayed the trust put upon him by the people to safeguard the interest of the nation rather then to abuse it by giving lucrative IPP and other projects and contracts to his cronies? What sort of advise would Mahathir give to Najib? Surely no advise that would benefit our nations interest and its people!
He is advised by UMNO leaders? Take Isa Samad and Thamby Chik – what advise would they give Najib that would benefit the rural Malays that are under their purview? These are two UMNO rejects that has to be recycled because UMNO has need for Isa’s proficiency in money politics and Thamby Chik expertise for gutter politics. It sickens me to the core to have these still titled dregs of human society in position of such responsibilities!
What advised has Najib been given to deal with the opposition – Pakatan Rakyat? His first foray into opposition territory was infamously successful with the taking of Perak from Pakatan Rakyat – not through the electoral process but through the baiting of opposition MP’s to cross over to Barisan Nasional. I will leave it to your imagination to figure out what bait was used. Suffice to say that apart from that bait, the Sultan and the Judiciary were co-opted to come onto Barisan Nasional side. What the price was for the capitulation of the Sultan and the Judiciary is still to be tabulated but we have a fair idea what the final costs will be!
After Perak Najib embarked on a relentless vendetta against the opposition. At times even death, as in Teoh Beng Hock’s, did not dimmed the enthusiasm of the offending mechanism used to harass the opposition. As if one death was not enough, it took another death before MACC began to get its act together – hopefully it will not regress to what it was before – a running dog for UMNO’s political agenda.
And now it would seem that only the jailing of the opposition leader would satisfy Najib. What have we regressed to? Somalia, Chad, Zimbabwe or the Democratic Repblic of Congo? In these places arrest warrants and the judiciary are weapons of choice for the government to neutralize any opposition!
Comments (7)...
written by SoundMan, December 31, 2011 21:19:22
UMNO after GE13 ? Let us all go for A.B.U. ! ...
written by An Old Man, December 31, 2011 15:06:11
I believe Najib is being advised by some of the "best" strategists from the States. These are of the McKinsey or Boston Consulting group types of young boys and girls. They only know one model: The end justifies the means. Machiavelli is their god. (No thanks to Oxford Dictionary, Nicolo Macihiavelli was actually a great statesman, not a politician of the UMNO variety!) Power is everything. As a Chinese saying goes; power can even make hantu do your biddings! Mahathir made corruption a respectable culture, Badawi glorified mediocrity of the highest order, and Nabib out-does everybody, he chooses to swallow wholesale! With RM9 billion, you can buy an aircraft carrier - with money to spare - let alone six silly patrol boats! I leave it to you go imagine the loot! Indonesia used to be a basket case in corruption. Suharto's wife was known as Mrs Ten. But ours is Mr 3-to-10 fold!!! Only Phillipines can match us -with their Marcos and Arroyo. But the situation did get better. Whereas in our case, things seem to head for a bottomless pit. How sad! ...
written by litingrui, December 31, 2011 15:03:43
It is an unwritten fact that MACC is one of the brances of UMNO's gestapo. The others are OSA, PDRM, Peaceful Assembly Act, etc. When a government looks after the interests of its people, it is a good government. Who cares whether it is communist, democratic or socialist or whatever name you call it. It is s good government. What is so proud to be call democratic country when your government looks after the interest of the politicians' pocket rather than the people's pockets. It is a bad government. period. Unless you are uncivilised, can you be proud of this country? ...
written by alacarte, December 31, 2011 13:16:46
And after victory at the 13th general election what else do they want? A responsible and accountable government. And good governance. And then? Prosecute those leaders who had abuse the trust place upon them by the people.
This is the scariest prospect face by B.N. people, this explain why they have to win at all cost, by the way such time will come sooner or later, by the way the new Gomen must build thousands of jail cells to house these criminals. ...
written by Sribayu, December 31, 2011 12:55:59
UMNO will never change and would continue to remain as autocratic, draconic and mafia association. Najib is probably seen as the worst Prime Minister in Malaysia and it will be only a matter of time when things will turn for the worst.
It’s too bad when the same crazy person who was behind the troubled UMNO in 1988, and also sacked many of his enemy who opposed him (Musa Hitam, Razaleigh, Anwar & Pak Lah) is the same one who brought Najib in to power.
As long as Mamaktaik is around, UMNO would never be in peace. ...
written by IbnAbdHalim, December 31, 2011 12:12:27
On lesser tone, we need a new broom. The present vehicle is unserviceable. ...
written by vhari, December 31, 2011 11:58:24
Sodomy 2
Ligam tape-no further investigation
Altatantuya bombing
Perak capture,Siva carried away
Kugan died,TBH died.Then Sabbini died.
Cowgate ,Lavishous expenditure
Kickbacks
Some to come
UMNO is full of failed leaders. More of their first tier leaders have, at one time or another, left UMNO than have stayed. Tunku, Hussein Onn, Mahathir, Tengku Razaleigh, Musa Hitam, Anwar Ibrahim and maybe Mahathir again if he does not have his way in the run up to the 13th general elections. Some have done so out of spite, some out of a sense of moral responsibility while some chose to do politics outside UMNO. I look at Najib today and see a man out of his depth in a job he is ill equipped to handle.
He is clearly not a leader able to put two separate pieces of information together in his head – what more process the numerous inputs coming in from all angles and sources – and digest them before making the necessary decisions that would affect his party, his people and his country.
It is tragic for us and our country that this incompetent leader is advised by people whose vested interest overwhelms all other considerations. UMNO is obsessed with one thing and one thing only – how to hang on to power. There is no competent strategy of what to do with the malaise that has now overtaken our country because of this obsession for power over these last 50 years. No competent strategy of how to move on after the 13th general election. These UMNO goons have no plans beyond taking back power in the 13th general election. It would seem that should power be theirs again after the 13th general election it would be back to the orgy of plundering and pillaging of our country wealth and resources!
Who advises Najib? Mahathir? The same Mahathir that wants his so called ‘legacy’ wreck asunder by Pak Lah to now be ‘protected’ by Najib? What legacy? Abuses and incompetence would more appropriately describe the 20 over years of Mahathir’s rule. This same Mahathir has already fast tracked his son into Cabinet! Now he stands poised to ‘negotiate’ with Najib his support for Najib in the coming 13th general election in return for what? The crooked bridge in Johore? A minister ship for his son? The protection of his crony business interest because without the OSA he would be exposed as having betrayed the trust put upon him by the people to safeguard the interest of the nation rather then to abuse it by giving lucrative IPP and other projects and contracts to his cronies? What sort of advise would Mahathir give to Najib? Surely no advise that would benefit our nations interest and its people!
He is advised by UMNO leaders? Take Isa Samad and Thamby Chik – what advise would they give Najib that would benefit the rural Malays that are under their purview? These are two UMNO rejects that has to be recycled because UMNO has need for Isa’s proficiency in money politics and Thamby Chik expertise for gutter politics. It sickens me to the core to have these still titled dregs of human society in position of such responsibilities!
What advised has Najib been given to deal with the opposition – Pakatan Rakyat? His first foray into opposition territory was infamously successful with the taking of Perak from Pakatan Rakyat – not through the electoral process but through the baiting of opposition MP’s to cross over to Barisan Nasional. I will leave it to your imagination to figure out what bait was used. Suffice to say that apart from that bait, the Sultan and the Judiciary were co-opted to come onto Barisan Nasional side. What the price was for the capitulation of the Sultan and the Judiciary is still to be tabulated but we have a fair idea what the final costs will be!
After Perak Najib embarked on a relentless vendetta against the opposition. At times even death, as in Teoh Beng Hock’s, did not dimmed the enthusiasm of the offending mechanism used to harass the opposition. As if one death was not enough, it took another death before MACC began to get its act together – hopefully it will not regress to what it was before – a running dog for UMNO’s political agenda.
And now it would seem that only the jailing of the opposition leader would satisfy Najib. What have we regressed to? Somalia, Chad, Zimbabwe or the Democratic Repblic of Congo? In these places arrest warrants and the judiciary are weapons of choice for the government to neutralize any opposition!
Comments (7)...
written by SoundMan, December 31, 2011 21:19:22
UMNO after GE13 ? Let us all go for A.B.U. ! ...
written by An Old Man, December 31, 2011 15:06:11
I believe Najib is being advised by some of the "best" strategists from the States. These are of the McKinsey or Boston Consulting group types of young boys and girls. They only know one model: The end justifies the means. Machiavelli is their god. (No thanks to Oxford Dictionary, Nicolo Macihiavelli was actually a great statesman, not a politician of the UMNO variety!) Power is everything. As a Chinese saying goes; power can even make hantu do your biddings! Mahathir made corruption a respectable culture, Badawi glorified mediocrity of the highest order, and Nabib out-does everybody, he chooses to swallow wholesale! With RM9 billion, you can buy an aircraft carrier - with money to spare - let alone six silly patrol boats! I leave it to you go imagine the loot! Indonesia used to be a basket case in corruption. Suharto's wife was known as Mrs Ten. But ours is Mr 3-to-10 fold!!! Only Phillipines can match us -with their Marcos and Arroyo. But the situation did get better. Whereas in our case, things seem to head for a bottomless pit. How sad! ...
written by litingrui, December 31, 2011 15:03:43
It is an unwritten fact that MACC is one of the brances of UMNO's gestapo. The others are OSA, PDRM, Peaceful Assembly Act, etc. When a government looks after the interests of its people, it is a good government. Who cares whether it is communist, democratic or socialist or whatever name you call it. It is s good government. What is so proud to be call democratic country when your government looks after the interest of the politicians' pocket rather than the people's pockets. It is a bad government. period. Unless you are uncivilised, can you be proud of this country? ...
written by alacarte, December 31, 2011 13:16:46
And after victory at the 13th general election what else do they want? A responsible and accountable government. And good governance. And then? Prosecute those leaders who had abuse the trust place upon them by the people.
This is the scariest prospect face by B.N. people, this explain why they have to win at all cost, by the way such time will come sooner or later, by the way the new Gomen must build thousands of jail cells to house these criminals. ...
written by Sribayu, December 31, 2011 12:55:59
UMNO will never change and would continue to remain as autocratic, draconic and mafia association. Najib is probably seen as the worst Prime Minister in Malaysia and it will be only a matter of time when things will turn for the worst.
It’s too bad when the same crazy person who was behind the troubled UMNO in 1988, and also sacked many of his enemy who opposed him (Musa Hitam, Razaleigh, Anwar & Pak Lah) is the same one who brought Najib in to power.
As long as Mamaktaik is around, UMNO would never be in peace. ...
written by IbnAbdHalim, December 31, 2011 12:12:27
On lesser tone, we need a new broom. The present vehicle is unserviceable. ...
written by vhari, December 31, 2011 11:58:24
Sodomy 2
Ligam tape-no further investigation
Altatantuya bombing
Perak capture,Siva carried away
Kugan died,TBH died.Then Sabbini died.
Cowgate ,Lavishous expenditure
Kickbacks
Some to come
Thursday, December 29, 2011
"MELAYU AKAN HILANG DIDUNIA...AKHIR NYA!!"
The "Malay World" is actually very small.........
Regardless of Article 153, UMNO can Malay this, and Malay that, and yet, I find it both amusing and sad that they are claiming the "Superiority" of a clan which is actually fast diminishing.
By John Doe
Everyday we hear of someone screaming and shouting about Article 153. Article 153 seems to be the Bane-of-Malaysian-Unity, the Bondage-of-UMNO, and the Brunt-of-Kopitiam-Discussions. Somehow, dress like, speak like, practise customs like, and is Muslim defines a race. Race, race, race, race. That's all Malaysians are bombarded with all day long. Has Malaysia no "udder" better topics to speak about? Chinese-Indian-Malay this, Chinese-Indian-Malay that. This will be the last time I will discuss this. And once and for all put to rest all this nonsensical cloak-and-dagger discussions.
Before I begin, and this is trained at Pakatan Rakyat - STOP screaming about Tax-Payers' Money. 90% of Malaysians do NOT care! Why? Because only 10% of the Malaysian Population pays Tax. And those who do NOT pay Tax, do NOT care! The majority of Malaysian Government's income comes from Oil Money. And to stop UMNO, you have to stop their source of income. This Oil income is circa 45% of Malaysia's Wealth. Capisce? And why do I bring Oil into the formula? Simple! The Majority of oil comes from Borneo. And in Borneo, there are only 11% Malays in Sabah. And once you deduct the percentage of Melanaus in Sarawak, you are left with about 3% Malays in Sarawak.
Number one:
Melanaus are Melanaus. Malays are Malays. Ibans are Ibans. And you will never hear anyone speak about the Teochew race. Since when is a Chinese Muslim a Malay? And since when is a Kerala-boy a Malay?
Number two:
Konvensyen Dunia Melayu proudly proclaims that the "Malay-World" has a population which includes Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Philippines, Brunei, Singapore, Indonesia, Burma and Vietnam. Sounds dandy. But to the average person, this is confusing. It seems to suggest that all of Thailand, which has a population of circa 60 million is Malay. However, for that to happen, then Konvensyen Dunia Melayu needs to accept that you MUST also accept the definition of a Buddhist Malay in Indochine, Hindu Malay in Bali, and Abangan Malay in Jowo, as well as a Catholic Malay in the Philippines!! Clearly, these countries are as Austronesian (Malay) as the samples found in Malaysia, but they are definitely not Muslim.
Konvensyen Dunia Melayu needs to trim their numbers down by quite a bit then. Let's start with some of the Major-slashings. (You do the math yourself.) Approximately 80% of all Javanese are of the Abangan Religion, and Jowo has a population of about 120 Million. Bali is 93% Hindu, Philippines is 87% Catholic, and less than 2% of Thais are Muslim.
And what about Malaysia then?
According to the latest Census, despite all the body-snatching, conversions of Chinese, and Indians for Business Purposes, conversion of Chinese and Indians for Marriage Purposes, plus the deeply encouraged importation of Indonesian Muslims, Project IC of the Philippino Muslims, Southern Thai Muslims, Bangala Muslims, India's Muslims, Pakistan's Muslims, heck, even Serbia's and Palestinian Muslims and the insistence that "Malays" needing to breed 16.3 children per woman, it is perhaps SHOCKING to reveal that the census of Malaysia in the year 2011 proudly announces that:
"Malays are (now finally) the largest ethnic group in the country, comprising 50.1 per cent of the 27,484,596 total"
Taken from Here: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/census-population-hits-27.5m-mark/
Wait a minute!?! ONLY 50.1 PERCENT? Yes. It reads correctly. What happened to the 68% Malay-Muslim the Main-Stream-Media had always advertised, and insisted that we believe?? You mean now, and only now there are 50.1% Malays in Malaysia? Was there a drop in Islamic popularity? An 18% drop is a serious concern, by everyone involved. Regardless, let's assume that the 50.1% is not faked in any way ....
What if we deducted all the Chinese Muslims, all the Indian Muslims, and all the "dan lain-lain Muslims", what percentage would we end up with? 30%? Less? (Yea, yea, we all know guys like Abdullah Tee, Mahathir, and his koncho-koncho are called "Malay" because of Article 153.) What if we also deducted all the Malays who have been successfully proselytized? Yea, all those closet Hindu Malays, and Buddhist Malays, Catholic & Christian Malays, Jewish Malays, Hare Krishna Malays, Bahai Malays, Mahakari Malays Zoroastrian Malays and Atheist Malays .... What numbers then would we have? 20%? Less?
What was it ten years ago? What was it 30 years ago, and what was it half a century ago?
Who is a Malay?
A 1974 document issued to the United Nations by the Government of Malaysia, prepared by DOROTHY Z. FERNANDEZ, AMOS H. HAWLEY, SILVIA PREDAZA, defines "Malay" as:
"... Malay: Malay, Indonesian, Negrito, Jakun, Semai, Semdai,Temiar, Other Orang Asli and Other Malay(s)..."
Hold on a second ... A Negrito, Jakun, Semai, Semdai,Temiar, Other Orang Asli are Muslim? What happened to Article 153?
Also, why is every Indonesian on Malaysian soil considered a "Malay"? There is also no mention of the word Bumiputra in that Document at all. Mind you that this was prepared in 1974, and Article 153 was already almost twenty years old!!
What is interesting to note is a particular paragraph which reads like this, and I quote verbatim:
"...There was also an immigration of Malays from the neighboring islands, particularly from Java and Sumatra, to work on the rubber estates. It is not possible to trace their numbers through the early years. Attempts were made to identify "Malays and Other Natives of the Archipelego" in the enumerations of 1891 and 1911, but the ease of assimilation of Malay migrants from Indonesia made the counts very unreliable..."
What then is all this nonsense about "Malays" NOT being "pendatangs" and all?
Read again the above. It clearly and plainly states "immigration of Malays from neighboring Islands, particularly Java and Sumatra..."
If this sentence does not define "Pendatang Malay", then I don't know what does!!! I must remind you that this is indeed a Malaysian Government Official Document, prepared for the United Nations.
What is significant in this document, is that on page 16, it gives a breakdown of the races. Including all the (in their own words) "Pendatangs".
The "Malay" Population in Malaysia totaled 3,125,474, the Chinese 2,333,756, and the Indians 696,186. It is strange that there was no "dan lain-lain" category. As if they did not exist at all. The total population in this table is drafted at 6,278.758. And thus, we can deduce that if we added 3,125,474 (Malay) to 2,333,756(Chinese) and 696,186(Indian), and subtracted this number from the grand total of 6,278.758, we would have the numbers for the "dan lain-lain" category, which amounts to 123,342. However, when one divides 3,125,474 (including Indonesians, Orang Asli's, Sabahans, and Sarawakians etc etc) by the total population of 6,278.758, then you would hit an astonishing figure of 49.778539%.
Hold on a minute now. You mean that despite all those inclusions of "Pendatang Indonesians" and Sabahans, and Sarawakians (they are classified as the "other Malays") and just about everyone else, the total "Malay" population in 1974, in percentage terms was only 49.778539% ? Anyone else can see the number-manipulations which has been going on now right under your noses?
The full document in PDF form can be downloaded here: http://www.cicred.org/Eng/Publications/pdf/c-c34.pdf
(Yes, it was typed with a typewriter. Clickety-clack, smudges and all)
Number Three:
DNA, according to Prof Zilfalil Alwi, defines "Malay" as an admixture of multiple races with 52% coming from Chinese DNA, and the rest, from Indians, amongst others. The long and short of it, a term which most Malaysians endear, "Chindian". Another theory presented by Professor Zilfalil was that early Malays could also be Indian priests who came to the Malay peninsula to spread Hinduism. Sejarah Melayu fortifies this when it recorded that the first Kings of Malaya were indeed of the Keling stock, which I wrote about here, titled "Parameswara is a certified Singaporean Keling - Not a Joke"
You can read the full piece here: http://malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/letterssurat/43394-parameswara-is-a-certified-singaporean-keling-not-a-joke
You can read about the Malay DNA piece here: http://www.asiaone.com/print/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Malaysia/Story/A1Story20111026-307064.html
On Dec 23rd 2011, on USM's own website, they presented this again
Read it yourself from the horse's own mouth here: http://www.usm.my/index.php/about-usm/news-archive/66-news-highlight/5956-DNA-MAPPING-PROVE-ASIANS-HAVE-SAME-GENETIC-ANCESTRY-.html
I will call your attention however, to one of Prof Zilfalil Alwi's own statements, and that is "...From his presentation, the 'Indianisation' of the Malay peninsula was described in early Chinese accounts, where there was a Hindu kingdom...", and the only thing which I want to stress, is that they are called "Chinese Records" because the Chinese were already in Geographical Malaya. And being a Hindu certainly does NOT make one an Indian!! Race and Religion do NOT correlate. Country borders and religion does have a correlation though, and that is something else to think about.
Number Four:
Why is it that once a Chinese or an Indian converts to Islam, they have to change their name(s) to an Arabic one, and inadvertently put Abdullah as your father's name?
Perhaps Malay Muslims have never heard or come across Hui Liangyu (China vice premier) and Sania Mirza (tennis player). Their names never resembled anything Arabic but they are well-known Muslims. This includes Yvonne Redley (a reporter once detained by Taliban), Nicolas Anelka and Frank Ribery (both footballers) are still proud to be called by their original name despite their conversion to Islam. It is important to note that none carry the "bin Abdullah" suffix.
Many become Muslims when they want to marry a Muslim while others convert to Islam as a means of tapping in to the social and economic benefits that Muslims enjoy. This is certainly an excellent way to promote one's religion.
Number Five:
The Baju Melayu is NOT Muslim clothing. Neither is the Songkok. I guarantee you that neither the Prophet Muhammad, nor any of his 10,000 Soldiers wore the Baju Melayu. Unless of course, someone from UMNO tells you that Prophet Muhammad was a Malay!! The Songkok clearly comes from the Bataks of Medan, who in turn were either inspired or (more likely) copied it from Nehru in India. The Kopiah, on the other hand, is as Jewish as it is Islamic. (Google "Religious Skullcap" yourself.) The Jewish word for it is "kippah". For those who do not know, the French government banned the wearing of kippot, hijabs and large crosses in public primary and secondary schools in France in March 2004. Contrary to what you were told, the French were NOT only banning the Hijab. In fact, one could proudly wear the baju Melayu in France and no one gives a hoot, because it is NOT Muslim clothing, and is not recognised as so.
Number Six:
The 20-point agreement and the (now erased) 18-point agreement between the Federation and Borneo can be read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20-point_agreement
How many of these have been violated? Anyone been to Kuching would note that the street-signs are all in English (most of them anyway.).
I want to point your attention to
Point 12: Special position of indigenous races
"In principle the indigenous races of North Borneo should enjoy special rights analogous to those enjoyed by Malays in Malaya, "
This in essence means that there is absolutely no need for conversion to any religion other than their own to enjoy the same details of Article 153. Failure to comply with this probably allows for both Sabah and Sarawak to "un-join" themselves like what happened to Singapore.
Although, this remains the prerogative of the future "Republic of Borneo" citizens to decide. That is the true trademark of Democracy. Decision by the people, and not decision by the Dictators, and this is perhaps the best explanation of what is happening around the world. Regime after Regime is collapsing one by one. Perhaps the UN would welcome the "Republic of Borneo" as its 197th country after Sudan (North and South?) Borneo certainly has the resources to do so, and if they exercised "skill procurement" like Singapore, they can continue to "brain-drain" the peninsular of her top Academics, and trained professionals. The Oil wells will certainly carry her through the year 2030, especially with Rigs like "Kiki" being one of the top producers beating the combined wealth of all of Miri's oil rigs (but that's another story).
I'm also pretty sure that Pakatan Rakyat would assist you in gaining this independence, as their assurances of fairness to all, based on their Championing of Human RIghts, Voice-of-the-People Battle-Cry and so on would be happy to grant you this, if you collaborated with them before the coming 13th General Elections. After all, it's a win-win situation. Pakatan gets to defeat UMNO, and the "Republic of Borneo" is born. What a fantastic photo-finish!! No longer will Penans have to be raped, no longer will Taib be robbing Sarawak, and Bruno Manser's body may finally be found after all these years. For West Malaysians, it makes no difference to you at all. Most of you have never been there anyway, and even if you did today, you still need to show either your Passport (before) or show your MyKad (aka IC).
So, in addressing Abraham-son-of-Ali's statement about Article 153 and the church, and it's relevance to May 13th, what is the relationship? Are you telling everyone that Perkasa would launch another May 13th if "dan lain-lains" start to debate Article 153?
As shown above, the Borneo people have been denied their Bornean Article 12 Rights. Are you defending the Bornean Article 12 as well? Was Article 153 written by Prophet Muhammad? Is Article 153 called a Hadith? The Koran? Is this man-made document so "Holy" that it cannot be changed?
I know for a fact the Malaysian Constipation has already been changed almost 600 times since 1957. With the "most significant change" pertaining to the de-clawing of the Sultans. Proselytizing of Muslims? You want evidence? Sure, I'll give you evidence. Just read here:
(A kid with internet access would have found these easily): http://www.strategicnetwork.org/index.php?loc=kb&view=v&id=2557&fto=633&
and here: http://www.partnersintl.org/partners/se/mymw
Go ahead. The evidence is clear. Arrest them! Hang them, stone them, or decapitate them. Show the world that Malaysia is indeed NOT the moderate Muslim country which she pretends to be!! And all because of a few over-zealous individuals who pretend to be "Holier-than-Thou" whilst digging their hands into the wealth of the country, and robbing it blind!
What happened to Article 11 of the Federal Constipation? Did Abraham-son-of-Ali erase it? Did he also erase Sarawak's 18-point agreement? It's certainly contained within the same Constipation which he screams and rants about (while saying three times on Al Jazeera as well). So where does that leave us?
The truth of the matter is, the "Malay World" is actually very small. Regardless of Article 153, UMNO can Malay this, and Malay that, and yet, I find it both amusing and sad that they are claiming the "Superiority" of a clan which is actually fast diminishing. Javanese are now called Melayu, Bugis are now called Melayu, Acehnese are now called Melayu, Minangs are called Melayu and even Southern Thais, and Southern Philippinos are called Melayu. What exactly is so important about being a Melayu which warrants the attack on the Nons?
Prophet Muhammad was certainly NOT a Malay, and hence, the "Ketuanan Melayu" is pure bollocks. Who are you trying to impress? Article 153 is man-made, man-written, and man-changeable. Who knows if we continue to let UMNO Dictate the future of Malaysia, one day, UMNO might declare that Allah is a Malay??
Comments (10)..
written by NottyMaus, December 27, 2011 10:18:34
Thank you, John Doe for the nicest christmas present anyone would want.
And don't the Armnopukeks try to make it to the Borneo states upon the demise of the Pekmo man, else surely there will be a Malaykistan and the Republic of Borneo.
Abra-Ham-son-of Ali-the pig can go to hell; Article 153 only concerned the Borneo states; why hijack it for the cause of ketuanan dickies of Malaykistan ? ..
written by vhari, December 27, 2011 08:07:33
Iron smelting plants were found in Jeniang .It is mentioned that Hindusism spread from bujang valley to S.E.Asia nations .
Bujang valley is 1,000 sq.Km. that is 3 times the size of the Penang Island
Hindusim was brought in malaysia as far 1AD that is many-many hundreds years before even the prophert was born.
So I guess Beleive in God first was brought to the malays by the Hindus. ..
written by Jibby the Head, your C4 Friendly $upreme 1AiyahDollar Fuhrer, December 27, 2011 07:38:00
Read lah 1my Oafs 1My Qur'4n swearing pink pouting lip$
Of course Prophit Muhammad is a Malay - and I, your $upreme 1Leader, the son of God, if not GodAilan, Him$elf. All these discussions are techincal and frivolous, just surrender as resistance is futile. Wor$hip-lah 1Me with you ca$h, birkin bag and diamonds, then al-tantuyah lah you will be $aved... or else! $emua-nya OK! ..
written by Angela Ooi, December 27, 2011 07:21:31
Dear John Doe, I just love this witty n factual piece of writing, thanks n please do write more. So now the village idiots among the dUMNO Ketuanans n their 'Bodek-ass-lickers' should know there's nothing to crow about in the first damn place. ..
written by An Old Man, December 27, 2011 06:17:35
Someone mentioned somewhere about the Demak kingdom in Java. The founder was a Chinese, albeit of Muslim faith. He was instrumental in the Islamisation of Java.Both he and his son remain Indonesia's national heroes. But few Indonesians actually know this fact. Please read "The Early Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago and Maly Peninsula" written by a French historian, whose name I cannot remember off-hand. (You can get it from Amazon.com.)
Many Cambodians are actually of the "Malay" stock, but they are predominantly Buddhist today. How ironical! Let's don't get too worked up over race arguments. Cantonese are 70% Han and 30% "Bai", but does this make them less Chinese? Only Chen Shui-bien thinks he is not a Chinese. Ditto Ridzuan Tee Abdullah. (He doesn't deserve the "Dr" honorific; in a more rigorous academic environment, his at best would be a third class honours material!!!) ..
written by Tompios, December 27, 2011 04:18:07
hulahula!! john doe, you are so amusing !
the real malay is minority stock based on what i read here. unfortunately, the word malays nowadays is merely a political agenda. can someone call this "neo-malay" as Yalam?
but wait, 45% malaysia income comes from oil? no wonder 95% for malay-sia and only 5% left to sabah. oh no! without the sense of right and wrong what more shame, 95% seems all alright to the core!! It is so embarrassing!! fault to sabahans and the sabahan's leaders! ball-pole's problem!! keep worshiping 95% taxes!!!! ..
written by Noble House, December 27, 2011 03:26:27
My dear John Doe,
You always have a way with words and your article almost always comes with the extra 'Oomph' that makes it so much easier for the digestive system. This is especially so with the case of having one too many 'halal' turkeys to contend with during Christmas. Interesting read here, John Boy! ..
written by lynn, December 27, 2011 01:13:21
JD,
Can you define "Ketuanan Melayu" in your own words here? I don't really understand what it means. Tuan means master but then my BM is poor. You shld watch Robin Hood 2010 starring Russell Crowe - it's got a good story - my lord... ..
written by Sribayu, December 26, 2011 23:49:59
The oldest mosque found in China was built about 1200 years ago while the oldest mosque found in Malay Polynesia was built 500 years ago (The one found in Demak Indonesia)
So.. That means that 1200 years ago, the Chinese people were the blessed people (for believing & accepting Allah and His revelations) while The Malay Tribes at that time were still in the middle of nowhere… perhaps they were "still “belum pakai baju dan sunat”.
Heheheh... Melayu jangan marah tau....! ..
written by earthman, December 26, 2011 22:37:19
Ha Ha ! Oh Yes , its the Malaysian Constipation alright. That is what happens when one suffers from chronic constipation. The toxic gases accumulates and transformed even Muhammad into a Malay?. What an amusing story here , John Doe.
But I don't believe this will be your last article. For I can see your fighting spirit to save Malaysia from the evil one. I have thought of that too after seeing the repeated issues and comments that brings Malaysians any benefits. It has become a ritual to condemn Umno Malays which actually brings no benefits unless the rest of the orang orang Melayu are deUmnoize. They need to be save first before Malaysia can be saved. This is a fact and all must repent and become the true man of God. Being Muslims , Christians , Hindus , Buddhists , Sikhs and .......... cannot save us and Malaysia unless we become men and women of God. That is we have compassion and love for others and the earth.
Regardless of Article 153, UMNO can Malay this, and Malay that, and yet, I find it both amusing and sad that they are claiming the "Superiority" of a clan which is actually fast diminishing.
By John Doe
Everyday we hear of someone screaming and shouting about Article 153. Article 153 seems to be the Bane-of-Malaysian-Unity, the Bondage-of-UMNO, and the Brunt-of-Kopitiam-Discussions. Somehow, dress like, speak like, practise customs like, and is Muslim defines a race. Race, race, race, race. That's all Malaysians are bombarded with all day long. Has Malaysia no "udder" better topics to speak about? Chinese-Indian-Malay this, Chinese-Indian-Malay that. This will be the last time I will discuss this. And once and for all put to rest all this nonsensical cloak-and-dagger discussions.
Before I begin, and this is trained at Pakatan Rakyat - STOP screaming about Tax-Payers' Money. 90% of Malaysians do NOT care! Why? Because only 10% of the Malaysian Population pays Tax. And those who do NOT pay Tax, do NOT care! The majority of Malaysian Government's income comes from Oil Money. And to stop UMNO, you have to stop their source of income. This Oil income is circa 45% of Malaysia's Wealth. Capisce? And why do I bring Oil into the formula? Simple! The Majority of oil comes from Borneo. And in Borneo, there are only 11% Malays in Sabah. And once you deduct the percentage of Melanaus in Sarawak, you are left with about 3% Malays in Sarawak.
Number one:
Melanaus are Melanaus. Malays are Malays. Ibans are Ibans. And you will never hear anyone speak about the Teochew race. Since when is a Chinese Muslim a Malay? And since when is a Kerala-boy a Malay?
Number two:
Konvensyen Dunia Melayu proudly proclaims that the "Malay-World" has a population which includes Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Philippines, Brunei, Singapore, Indonesia, Burma and Vietnam. Sounds dandy. But to the average person, this is confusing. It seems to suggest that all of Thailand, which has a population of circa 60 million is Malay. However, for that to happen, then Konvensyen Dunia Melayu needs to accept that you MUST also accept the definition of a Buddhist Malay in Indochine, Hindu Malay in Bali, and Abangan Malay in Jowo, as well as a Catholic Malay in the Philippines!! Clearly, these countries are as Austronesian (Malay) as the samples found in Malaysia, but they are definitely not Muslim.
Konvensyen Dunia Melayu needs to trim their numbers down by quite a bit then. Let's start with some of the Major-slashings. (You do the math yourself.) Approximately 80% of all Javanese are of the Abangan Religion, and Jowo has a population of about 120 Million. Bali is 93% Hindu, Philippines is 87% Catholic, and less than 2% of Thais are Muslim.
And what about Malaysia then?
According to the latest Census, despite all the body-snatching, conversions of Chinese, and Indians for Business Purposes, conversion of Chinese and Indians for Marriage Purposes, plus the deeply encouraged importation of Indonesian Muslims, Project IC of the Philippino Muslims, Southern Thai Muslims, Bangala Muslims, India's Muslims, Pakistan's Muslims, heck, even Serbia's and Palestinian Muslims and the insistence that "Malays" needing to breed 16.3 children per woman, it is perhaps SHOCKING to reveal that the census of Malaysia in the year 2011 proudly announces that:
"Malays are (now finally) the largest ethnic group in the country, comprising 50.1 per cent of the 27,484,596 total"
Taken from Here: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/census-population-hits-27.5m-mark/
Wait a minute!?! ONLY 50.1 PERCENT? Yes. It reads correctly. What happened to the 68% Malay-Muslim the Main-Stream-Media had always advertised, and insisted that we believe?? You mean now, and only now there are 50.1% Malays in Malaysia? Was there a drop in Islamic popularity? An 18% drop is a serious concern, by everyone involved. Regardless, let's assume that the 50.1% is not faked in any way ....
What if we deducted all the Chinese Muslims, all the Indian Muslims, and all the "dan lain-lain Muslims", what percentage would we end up with? 30%? Less? (Yea, yea, we all know guys like Abdullah Tee, Mahathir, and his koncho-koncho are called "Malay" because of Article 153.) What if we also deducted all the Malays who have been successfully proselytized? Yea, all those closet Hindu Malays, and Buddhist Malays, Catholic & Christian Malays, Jewish Malays, Hare Krishna Malays, Bahai Malays, Mahakari Malays Zoroastrian Malays and Atheist Malays .... What numbers then would we have? 20%? Less?
What was it ten years ago? What was it 30 years ago, and what was it half a century ago?
Who is a Malay?
A 1974 document issued to the United Nations by the Government of Malaysia, prepared by DOROTHY Z. FERNANDEZ, AMOS H. HAWLEY, SILVIA PREDAZA, defines "Malay" as:
"... Malay: Malay, Indonesian, Negrito, Jakun, Semai, Semdai,Temiar, Other Orang Asli and Other Malay(s)..."
Hold on a second ... A Negrito, Jakun, Semai, Semdai,Temiar, Other Orang Asli are Muslim? What happened to Article 153?
Also, why is every Indonesian on Malaysian soil considered a "Malay"? There is also no mention of the word Bumiputra in that Document at all. Mind you that this was prepared in 1974, and Article 153 was already almost twenty years old!!
What is interesting to note is a particular paragraph which reads like this, and I quote verbatim:
"...There was also an immigration of Malays from the neighboring islands, particularly from Java and Sumatra, to work on the rubber estates. It is not possible to trace their numbers through the early years. Attempts were made to identify "Malays and Other Natives of the Archipelego" in the enumerations of 1891 and 1911, but the ease of assimilation of Malay migrants from Indonesia made the counts very unreliable..."
What then is all this nonsense about "Malays" NOT being "pendatangs" and all?
Read again the above. It clearly and plainly states "immigration of Malays from neighboring Islands, particularly Java and Sumatra..."
If this sentence does not define "Pendatang Malay", then I don't know what does!!! I must remind you that this is indeed a Malaysian Government Official Document, prepared for the United Nations.
What is significant in this document, is that on page 16, it gives a breakdown of the races. Including all the (in their own words) "Pendatangs".
The "Malay" Population in Malaysia totaled 3,125,474, the Chinese 2,333,756, and the Indians 696,186. It is strange that there was no "dan lain-lain" category. As if they did not exist at all. The total population in this table is drafted at 6,278.758. And thus, we can deduce that if we added 3,125,474 (Malay) to 2,333,756(Chinese) and 696,186(Indian), and subtracted this number from the grand total of 6,278.758, we would have the numbers for the "dan lain-lain" category, which amounts to 123,342. However, when one divides 3,125,474 (including Indonesians, Orang Asli's, Sabahans, and Sarawakians etc etc) by the total population of 6,278.758, then you would hit an astonishing figure of 49.778539%.
Hold on a minute now. You mean that despite all those inclusions of "Pendatang Indonesians" and Sabahans, and Sarawakians (they are classified as the "other Malays") and just about everyone else, the total "Malay" population in 1974, in percentage terms was only 49.778539% ? Anyone else can see the number-manipulations which has been going on now right under your noses?
The full document in PDF form can be downloaded here: http://www.cicred.org/Eng/Publications/pdf/c-c34.pdf
(Yes, it was typed with a typewriter. Clickety-clack, smudges and all)
Number Three:
DNA, according to Prof Zilfalil Alwi, defines "Malay" as an admixture of multiple races with 52% coming from Chinese DNA, and the rest, from Indians, amongst others. The long and short of it, a term which most Malaysians endear, "Chindian". Another theory presented by Professor Zilfalil was that early Malays could also be Indian priests who came to the Malay peninsula to spread Hinduism. Sejarah Melayu fortifies this when it recorded that the first Kings of Malaya were indeed of the Keling stock, which I wrote about here, titled "Parameswara is a certified Singaporean Keling - Not a Joke"
You can read the full piece here: http://malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/letterssurat/43394-parameswara-is-a-certified-singaporean-keling-not-a-joke
You can read about the Malay DNA piece here: http://www.asiaone.com/print/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Malaysia/Story/A1Story20111026-307064.html
On Dec 23rd 2011, on USM's own website, they presented this again
Read it yourself from the horse's own mouth here: http://www.usm.my/index.php/about-usm/news-archive/66-news-highlight/5956-DNA-MAPPING-PROVE-ASIANS-HAVE-SAME-GENETIC-ANCESTRY-.html
I will call your attention however, to one of Prof Zilfalil Alwi's own statements, and that is "...From his presentation, the 'Indianisation' of the Malay peninsula was described in early Chinese accounts, where there was a Hindu kingdom...", and the only thing which I want to stress, is that they are called "Chinese Records" because the Chinese were already in Geographical Malaya. And being a Hindu certainly does NOT make one an Indian!! Race and Religion do NOT correlate. Country borders and religion does have a correlation though, and that is something else to think about.
Number Four:
Why is it that once a Chinese or an Indian converts to Islam, they have to change their name(s) to an Arabic one, and inadvertently put Abdullah as your father's name?
Perhaps Malay Muslims have never heard or come across Hui Liangyu (China vice premier) and Sania Mirza (tennis player). Their names never resembled anything Arabic but they are well-known Muslims. This includes Yvonne Redley (a reporter once detained by Taliban), Nicolas Anelka and Frank Ribery (both footballers) are still proud to be called by their original name despite their conversion to Islam. It is important to note that none carry the "bin Abdullah" suffix.
Many become Muslims when they want to marry a Muslim while others convert to Islam as a means of tapping in to the social and economic benefits that Muslims enjoy. This is certainly an excellent way to promote one's religion.
Number Five:
The Baju Melayu is NOT Muslim clothing. Neither is the Songkok. I guarantee you that neither the Prophet Muhammad, nor any of his 10,000 Soldiers wore the Baju Melayu. Unless of course, someone from UMNO tells you that Prophet Muhammad was a Malay!! The Songkok clearly comes from the Bataks of Medan, who in turn were either inspired or (more likely) copied it from Nehru in India. The Kopiah, on the other hand, is as Jewish as it is Islamic. (Google "Religious Skullcap" yourself.) The Jewish word for it is "kippah". For those who do not know, the French government banned the wearing of kippot, hijabs and large crosses in public primary and secondary schools in France in March 2004. Contrary to what you were told, the French were NOT only banning the Hijab. In fact, one could proudly wear the baju Melayu in France and no one gives a hoot, because it is NOT Muslim clothing, and is not recognised as so.
Number Six:
The 20-point agreement and the (now erased) 18-point agreement between the Federation and Borneo can be read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20-point_agreement
How many of these have been violated? Anyone been to Kuching would note that the street-signs are all in English (most of them anyway.).
I want to point your attention to
Point 12: Special position of indigenous races
"In principle the indigenous races of North Borneo should enjoy special rights analogous to those enjoyed by Malays in Malaya, "
This in essence means that there is absolutely no need for conversion to any religion other than their own to enjoy the same details of Article 153. Failure to comply with this probably allows for both Sabah and Sarawak to "un-join" themselves like what happened to Singapore.
Although, this remains the prerogative of the future "Republic of Borneo" citizens to decide. That is the true trademark of Democracy. Decision by the people, and not decision by the Dictators, and this is perhaps the best explanation of what is happening around the world. Regime after Regime is collapsing one by one. Perhaps the UN would welcome the "Republic of Borneo" as its 197th country after Sudan (North and South?) Borneo certainly has the resources to do so, and if they exercised "skill procurement" like Singapore, they can continue to "brain-drain" the peninsular of her top Academics, and trained professionals. The Oil wells will certainly carry her through the year 2030, especially with Rigs like "Kiki" being one of the top producers beating the combined wealth of all of Miri's oil rigs (but that's another story).
I'm also pretty sure that Pakatan Rakyat would assist you in gaining this independence, as their assurances of fairness to all, based on their Championing of Human RIghts, Voice-of-the-People Battle-Cry and so on would be happy to grant you this, if you collaborated with them before the coming 13th General Elections. After all, it's a win-win situation. Pakatan gets to defeat UMNO, and the "Republic of Borneo" is born. What a fantastic photo-finish!! No longer will Penans have to be raped, no longer will Taib be robbing Sarawak, and Bruno Manser's body may finally be found after all these years. For West Malaysians, it makes no difference to you at all. Most of you have never been there anyway, and even if you did today, you still need to show either your Passport (before) or show your MyKad (aka IC).
So, in addressing Abraham-son-of-Ali's statement about Article 153 and the church, and it's relevance to May 13th, what is the relationship? Are you telling everyone that Perkasa would launch another May 13th if "dan lain-lains" start to debate Article 153?
As shown above, the Borneo people have been denied their Bornean Article 12 Rights. Are you defending the Bornean Article 12 as well? Was Article 153 written by Prophet Muhammad? Is Article 153 called a Hadith? The Koran? Is this man-made document so "Holy" that it cannot be changed?
I know for a fact the Malaysian Constipation has already been changed almost 600 times since 1957. With the "most significant change" pertaining to the de-clawing of the Sultans. Proselytizing of Muslims? You want evidence? Sure, I'll give you evidence. Just read here:
(A kid with internet access would have found these easily): http://www.strategicnetwork.org/index.php?loc=kb&view=v&id=2557&fto=633&
and here: http://www.partnersintl.org/partners/se/mymw
Go ahead. The evidence is clear. Arrest them! Hang them, stone them, or decapitate them. Show the world that Malaysia is indeed NOT the moderate Muslim country which she pretends to be!! And all because of a few over-zealous individuals who pretend to be "Holier-than-Thou" whilst digging their hands into the wealth of the country, and robbing it blind!
What happened to Article 11 of the Federal Constipation? Did Abraham-son-of-Ali erase it? Did he also erase Sarawak's 18-point agreement? It's certainly contained within the same Constipation which he screams and rants about (while saying three times on Al Jazeera as well). So where does that leave us?
The truth of the matter is, the "Malay World" is actually very small. Regardless of Article 153, UMNO can Malay this, and Malay that, and yet, I find it both amusing and sad that they are claiming the "Superiority" of a clan which is actually fast diminishing. Javanese are now called Melayu, Bugis are now called Melayu, Acehnese are now called Melayu, Minangs are called Melayu and even Southern Thais, and Southern Philippinos are called Melayu. What exactly is so important about being a Melayu which warrants the attack on the Nons?
Prophet Muhammad was certainly NOT a Malay, and hence, the "Ketuanan Melayu" is pure bollocks. Who are you trying to impress? Article 153 is man-made, man-written, and man-changeable. Who knows if we continue to let UMNO Dictate the future of Malaysia, one day, UMNO might declare that Allah is a Malay??
Comments (10)..
written by NottyMaus, December 27, 2011 10:18:34
Thank you, John Doe for the nicest christmas present anyone would want.
And don't the Armnopukeks try to make it to the Borneo states upon the demise of the Pekmo man, else surely there will be a Malaykistan and the Republic of Borneo.
Abra-Ham-son-of Ali-the pig can go to hell; Article 153 only concerned the Borneo states; why hijack it for the cause of ketuanan dickies of Malaykistan ? ..
written by vhari, December 27, 2011 08:07:33
Iron smelting plants were found in Jeniang .It is mentioned that Hindusism spread from bujang valley to S.E.Asia nations .
Bujang valley is 1,000 sq.Km. that is 3 times the size of the Penang Island
Hindusim was brought in malaysia as far 1AD that is many-many hundreds years before even the prophert was born.
So I guess Beleive in God first was brought to the malays by the Hindus. ..
written by Jibby the Head, your C4 Friendly $upreme 1AiyahDollar Fuhrer, December 27, 2011 07:38:00
Read lah 1my Oafs 1My Qur'4n swearing pink pouting lip$
Of course Prophit Muhammad is a Malay - and I, your $upreme 1Leader, the son of God, if not GodAilan, Him$elf. All these discussions are techincal and frivolous, just surrender as resistance is futile. Wor$hip-lah 1Me with you ca$h, birkin bag and diamonds, then al-tantuyah lah you will be $aved... or else! $emua-nya OK! ..
written by Angela Ooi, December 27, 2011 07:21:31
Dear John Doe, I just love this witty n factual piece of writing, thanks n please do write more. So now the village idiots among the dUMNO Ketuanans n their 'Bodek-ass-lickers' should know there's nothing to crow about in the first damn place. ..
written by An Old Man, December 27, 2011 06:17:35
Someone mentioned somewhere about the Demak kingdom in Java. The founder was a Chinese, albeit of Muslim faith. He was instrumental in the Islamisation of Java.Both he and his son remain Indonesia's national heroes. But few Indonesians actually know this fact. Please read "The Early Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago and Maly Peninsula" written by a French historian, whose name I cannot remember off-hand. (You can get it from Amazon.com.)
Many Cambodians are actually of the "Malay" stock, but they are predominantly Buddhist today. How ironical! Let's don't get too worked up over race arguments. Cantonese are 70% Han and 30% "Bai", but does this make them less Chinese? Only Chen Shui-bien thinks he is not a Chinese. Ditto Ridzuan Tee Abdullah. (He doesn't deserve the "Dr" honorific; in a more rigorous academic environment, his at best would be a third class honours material!!!) ..
written by Tompios, December 27, 2011 04:18:07
hulahula!! john doe, you are so amusing !
the real malay is minority stock based on what i read here. unfortunately, the word malays nowadays is merely a political agenda. can someone call this "neo-malay" as Yalam?
but wait, 45% malaysia income comes from oil? no wonder 95% for malay-sia and only 5% left to sabah. oh no! without the sense of right and wrong what more shame, 95% seems all alright to the core!! It is so embarrassing!! fault to sabahans and the sabahan's leaders! ball-pole's problem!! keep worshiping 95% taxes!!!! ..
written by Noble House, December 27, 2011 03:26:27
My dear John Doe,
You always have a way with words and your article almost always comes with the extra 'Oomph' that makes it so much easier for the digestive system. This is especially so with the case of having one too many 'halal' turkeys to contend with during Christmas. Interesting read here, John Boy! ..
written by lynn, December 27, 2011 01:13:21
JD,
Can you define "Ketuanan Melayu" in your own words here? I don't really understand what it means. Tuan means master but then my BM is poor. You shld watch Robin Hood 2010 starring Russell Crowe - it's got a good story - my lord... ..
written by Sribayu, December 26, 2011 23:49:59
The oldest mosque found in China was built about 1200 years ago while the oldest mosque found in Malay Polynesia was built 500 years ago (The one found in Demak Indonesia)
So.. That means that 1200 years ago, the Chinese people were the blessed people (for believing & accepting Allah and His revelations) while The Malay Tribes at that time were still in the middle of nowhere… perhaps they were "still “belum pakai baju dan sunat”.
Heheheh... Melayu jangan marah tau....! ..
written by earthman, December 26, 2011 22:37:19
Ha Ha ! Oh Yes , its the Malaysian Constipation alright. That is what happens when one suffers from chronic constipation. The toxic gases accumulates and transformed even Muhammad into a Malay?. What an amusing story here , John Doe.
But I don't believe this will be your last article. For I can see your fighting spirit to save Malaysia from the evil one. I have thought of that too after seeing the repeated issues and comments that brings Malaysians any benefits. It has become a ritual to condemn Umno Malays which actually brings no benefits unless the rest of the orang orang Melayu are deUmnoize. They need to be save first before Malaysia can be saved. This is a fact and all must repent and become the true man of God. Being Muslims , Christians , Hindus , Buddhists , Sikhs and .......... cannot save us and Malaysia unless we become men and women of God. That is we have compassion and love for others and the earth.
Sunday, December 4, 2011
Funny how the Malay race and Muslims in Malaysia seems to be talking about survival, never about their racial and religious progression or development.........
A comfortable victory could lead to the formation of a strong government, and hence, making it possible for any policy to defend Islam and the Malays, as well as the poor in rural areas, be implemented.
(Bernama) - Umno must not only ensure victory at the next general election, but must also ensure comfortable victory in order to preserve the sovereignty of Islam and the survival of the Malays in the country, said Umno vice-president Datuk Seri Mohd Shafie Apdal.
He said a comfortable victory could lead to the formation of a strong government, and hence, making it possible for any policy to defend Islam and the Malays, as well as the poor in rural areas, be implemented.
The BN government will have problems to draft and approve new laws if it fails to maintain the two-third majority in the next general election, he said when winding up the debate at Umno General Assembly 2011 here today.
He also expressed confidence that BN was capable to win the next general election as it had been the most credible and trusted government with proven track record and was willing to carry out transformation for the wellbeing of the people.
The government has also proved its ability to face the economic crises in 1997 without taking any loan from the International Monetary Fund, he said.
He said while the United States and European countries were facing global economic downturn, Malaysia, under Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak's leadership, had managed to record a Gross Domestic Product growth of 5.8 per cent in the third quarter this year.
Mohd Shafie, who is also Rural and Regional Development Minister, said Mara, an agency under the ministry, would also strive to increase the participation of young people in entrepreneurship, besides continue sponsoring excellent students to pursue their education abroad.
He also refuted the allegation that the prime minister was not fighting for the Malays, saying that Najib had approved an allocation of RM800 million for Mara students overseas, despite the initial application of RM500 million allocation made by Mara.
Comments (8)...
written by Stupid me, December 04, 2011 18:29:50
At this time of History, when a coloured man can become the President of the USA, this bloke is talking rubbish. Everyone should be equal. If he wants to be preserved with his AMNO comrades, why not build a supersize museum and preserved all of them there. ...
written by SiHangChai, December 04, 2011 14:08:14
Malaysians must vote to KICK BN UMNO forever. UMNO has been bullying MCA & MIC and other components. The country has seen today is slowly turning, from many of the implementations & rulings done, from a democratic country to a more secular Islamic country. I hold no grouses of this country declare Islam as its official religious but not practising it secularly in the law and that its Islamic-religion leaders from UMNO is practicing a double standard. Time to kick out UMNO but keep MCA, MIC, Gerakan dan other miniority BN parties from East Malaysia. Vote Pakatan- PKR, DAP & PAS for a change in 50 years. ...
written by Democrats, December 04, 2011 09:37:38
Funny how the Malay race and Muslims in Malaysia seems to be talking about survival, never about their racial and religious progression or development. That bad huh? Mind you that they are not even the minorities. They must become endangered species..... I heard of red Indians speaking about their survival in USa even the murud and minority Dayak sects speaking about it in Sarawak, but not from a race which constitutes more than half it's entire population, nor when it's religion is the national and official religion o f the c country...... ..
written by Alice, December 04, 2011 09:26:11
I am dead exhausted of hearing about Malays and Islam. Can't we just focus on what is right and wrong. Corruption is wrong and UMNO must GO
Cronysm is disgusting and UMNO must GO
Plundering the nations wealth for enriching oneself is unacceptable and UMNO must GO
Leaders without a conscience leads the nation to hell and so UMNO must disappear from the surface of earth. ...
written by truthbespoken, December 04, 2011 09:13:21
Racist misusing Islam through UMNO to incite fear of fellow Malaysians amongst Malays again! That's why UMNO and these racists must be booted out as the ruling government for the good of all Malaysians! These desperate bastards have nothing else new to offer Malaysians except racism and abusing Islam! ...
written by cheekhiaw, December 04, 2011 08:33:55
For 1,500 years every muslim thief that became the tuan of muslims had claimed that he was tuaning them for the sake of Islam. This thief is very different... ..
written by vhari, December 04, 2011 07:21:14
Shafie is wrong laws are passed with simple majority.
Now no 2/3 majority,but they have passed the assembly bill. ...
written by Nunudada, December 04, 2011 07:08:56
Shafie Apdal you are a racist bigot .You exemplify a person who lacks self confidence and knowledge.This combination has always been a recipe for disaster as far as politics is concerned.You are only interested in preserving your beauracratic abuses and protecting that of your flock mates.The whole bunch of you are corrupt without any doubt.You are all traitors of Malaysia because you have all abused the trust that was placed upon all of you by the people.
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